VGMdb
Go Back   VGMdb Forums > Discussion > Miscellaneous Discussion
Register FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #32  
Old Feb 20, 2012, 12:38 PM
jdkluv jdkluv is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 186
Default

Chrono Trigger - Secret of the Forest

LaTale - Dark Forest
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old Feb 20, 2012, 04:36 PM
Don Don is offline
Trusted Editor
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 816
Default

One of the ones that stands out to me is White Lightning from Final Fantasy Type-0 and Lower Norfair from Super Metroid. The accompaniment in White Lightning, the first time I heard it, instantly conjured up images of Super Metroid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc79T_j5YOI
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgHkrY6v-Ko
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old Feb 21, 2012, 12:51 AM
HarukameiKasumo's Avatar
HarukameiKasumo HarukameiKasumo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Earth
Posts: 97
Default

Every time i hear Mysterious Budo's Theme from Muscle Bomber i keep thinking of Ozzy Osbourne's "You Can't Kill Rock And Roll". It's not an obvious similarity, but i just can't help but hear it when i listen to it.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old Feb 29, 2012, 10:41 AM
Xenofan 29A Xenofan 29A is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 609
Default

This is a bit of an odd one, but it stuck out to me immediately.

Historia Crux - Final Fantasy XIII-2
World 3 - Super Mario Bros. 3
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old Mar 1, 2012, 09:09 PM
HarukameiKasumo's Avatar
HarukameiKasumo HarukameiKasumo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Earth
Posts: 97
Default

I was listening through some game music and came across this song from Mario and Luigi that i swear to god almost sounds like it's going to be the Harry Potter theme at times.

Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga Music - Teehee Valley

Harry Potter Theme
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old Mar 5, 2012, 11:54 AM
jdkluv jdkluv is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 186
Default

Edvard Grieg - In the Hall of the Mountain King (or as I know it, the theme tune for the Alton Towers adverts)

SaGa Frontier II - Interludium
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old Mar 5, 2012, 09:35 PM
TerraEpon's Avatar
TerraEpon TerraEpon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 198
Default

No.
That's not a similarity, at all. A rising scalular pattern does not a similarity make. Especially when it's a different mode and different rhythm after a few notes.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old Mar 6, 2012, 01:53 PM
HarukameiKasumo's Avatar
HarukameiKasumo HarukameiKasumo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Earth
Posts: 97
Default

Yeah, this wouldn't have made me think of it if i had heard it without the comparsion being pointed out. The key is far too different and the overall feeling is way different. It may trigger it a little bit but not enough to make me feel like it's similar, at least not to the point that i'd point it out. It doesn't even evoke the same mood or feeling.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old Mar 7, 2012, 05:37 AM
jdkluv jdkluv is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 186
Default

The first time I heard Interludium (which was a few weeks ago), it reminded me of a faster and slightly different and therefore slightly similar version of the classical tune. That's all. Nothing striking.
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old Mar 21, 2012, 01:07 PM
Xenofan 29A Xenofan 29A is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 609
Default

These are quite close, apart from the rhythm.

Final Fantasy - Battle Scene
James Bond Theme
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old Mar 29, 2012, 06:04 AM
OpaOpa's Avatar
OpaOpa OpaOpa is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Blue Skies
Posts: 12
Default

For the above comparison, I think that there are other VG-tunes much more fit for paralleling: for example, Web Spider's theme, or this portion of Silent Prison. But I guess I don't see the point in comparison, there, really, since the part I assume you're referring to is a fairly common min/Major chromaticism. Sorry if this comes off as aggressive.

Kingdom Hearts - End of the World
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption - Skytown

Play these at the same time for maximum fun.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old Mar 29, 2012, 09:18 AM
Xenofan 29A Xenofan 29A is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 609
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OpaOpa View Post
For the above comparison, I think that there are other VG-tunes much more fit for paralleling: for example, Web Spider's theme, or this portion of Silent Prison. But I guess I don't see the point in comparison, there, really, since the part I assume you're referring to is a fairly common min/Major chromaticism. Sorry if this comes off as aggressive.
Those examples have only that chromatic phrase in common with the theme, and that's extremely common. I've heard it all over the place in classical pieces that predate Bond by a long time.

No, the FF example is related to the melody, and they have a good deal in common. This is going to get a bit technical, so bear with me.

Both pieces are in the key of G minor. (G A B-flat C D E-flat F G)

The James Bond melody starts on D (the fifth) and ends on E-natural (the sharpened 6th). The important features are the prominent flatted fifth (D-flat) at the beginning, the minor-to-major B-flat to B natural in the middle, and the use of the sharpened 6th degree at the end (going down).

The Final Fantasy battle theme starts on D and ends on E-natural. It retains the emphasis on the flatted fifth and the sharpened 6th (going up), but removes the minor-to-major switch. What's more, it retains these features at the same relative point in the melody.

Like I said, the most important distinguishing feature is the rhythm. The James Bond theme has "swing", while the FF theme is played straight.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old Mar 29, 2012, 06:55 PM
OpaOpa's Avatar
OpaOpa OpaOpa is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Blue Skies
Posts: 12
Default

Okay, I better understand where you're coming from now. Thanks for the explanation.
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old Mar 31, 2012, 12:33 AM
Kewing's Avatar
Kewing Kewing is offline
Trusted Editor
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Spain
Posts: 330
Default

Was listening to some random megamix albums from the 80s, and got to a part that somehow felt familiar without having listened to it before http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxU1h...eature=related at 6:08.
Well, isn't that familiar?. Honestly, I didn't expect it. The S.S.T. Band sure were a bit of a fan of 80s western music.
__________________
My old Stepmania simfiles: here and here

MAH BOI, this peace is what all true warriors strive for!!
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old Apr 16, 2012, 09:46 PM
TerraEpon's Avatar
TerraEpon TerraEpon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 198
Default

Paquito D'Rivera - Song for Maura
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T1lwSN9pmk

FFVII - Costa del Sol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBLZM9hPKks

Pretty uncanny
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old May 1, 2012, 02:59 AM
dissident93's Avatar
dissident93 dissident93 is offline
Trusted Editor
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 743
Default

I've always thought that the After Burner II theme and Corneria sounded alike.

I know of lots more, but it would take too long to type. If anybody is interested, I can though. ; )
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old May 4, 2012, 12:19 AM
Redfield Redfield is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: California
Posts: 34
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenofan 29A View Post
This one's probably more of a conscious homage than anything.

Final Fantasy VII - Cinco de Chocobo

Dave Brubeck - Take Five.
Uematsu apparently really liked Dave Brubeck. Blue Rondo à la Turk/Final Fantasy VII Battle theme is one of the more blatant and well-known examples.
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old May 4, 2012, 03:57 AM
Xenofan 29A Xenofan 29A is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 609
Default

You also have to remember that the FFVII soundtrack was done on a pretty tight schedule, considering. 1 year for four hours of music. That's why some of it isn't up to par, and other bits of it are a little on the derivative side.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfield
Uematsu apparently really liked Dave Brubeck.
Ah, don't we all?
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old May 4, 2012, 04:58 AM
DarioEMeloD's Avatar
DarioEMeloD DarioEMeloD is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Santiago, Chile
Posts: 60
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dissident93 View Post
I've always thought that Theme of Solid Snake sounded kinda like Corneria, but I gotta say you beat me there xD
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old May 4, 2012, 10:42 PM
dissident93's Avatar
dissident93 dissident93 is offline
Trusted Editor
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 743
Default

haha, that too! xD
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old May 4, 2012, 11:57 PM
Vert1's Avatar
Vert1 Vert1 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 295
Default

I gotta look into it more but The Final Destination OST track 'The Raceway' is practically identical to a tune in Ninja Gaiden 2 (360).
__________________
Before the heavens, before destiny.
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old May 5, 2012, 04:23 AM
Jormungand's Avatar
Jormungand Jormungand is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 547
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfield View Post
Uematsu apparently really liked Dave Brubeck. Blue Rondo à la Turk/Final Fantasy VII Battle theme is one of the more blatant and well-known examples.
Take Five is obvious. However the Blue Rondo is extremely tenuous, and not something I would call "blatant" at all. The time signature's not even the same, and that's the most prominent feature of Brubeck's piece. Might Uematsu have been inspired by it? Sure. But it's no homage or even an attempt to reimagine.
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old Oct 12, 2012, 08:00 PM
OpaOpa's Avatar
OpaOpa OpaOpa is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Blue Skies
Posts: 12
Default

Thought that the similarities between Final Fantasy 2's "Rebel Army Theme" & G Gundam's "Shourisha-tachi no Banka" were amusing enough for a bump.
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old Oct 12, 2012, 09:09 PM
Lavis Lavis is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4
Default

Here are a few music similarities I remember out of my head:

TMNT: Tournament Fighters - Karai's Theme
Bahamut Lagoon - Boss Battle

Terranigma - Call at a Port
Darker Than Black - Water Forest

Suikoden II - The desire to triumph
Bahamut Lagoon - Rebel Army These ones just sound similar in one passage.

These are some I can recall by now.

Last edited by Lavis; Oct 12, 2012 at 09:11 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old Oct 12, 2012, 09:44 PM
TerraEpon's Avatar
TerraEpon TerraEpon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 198
Default

Final Fantasy the Crystal Bearers - Queen's Garden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwdfGee80uw

Hook (1991 movie) - The Banquet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnTnE9Xqzn4
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old Oct 13, 2012, 08:57 AM
Xenofan 29A Xenofan 29A is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 609
Default

Kid Icarus: Uprising - Mysterious Invaders - Yuzo Koshiro

Shostakovich Symphony No. 5 - 4th Movement

That's just blatant, and so was yours, TerraEpon. I'm not sure about the ones Lavis posted, though. They don't sound that similar to me.
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old Oct 13, 2012, 08:22 PM
Rhythmroo's Avatar
Rhythmroo Rhythmroo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: New England
Posts: 58
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenofan 29A View Post
Striking resemblance in regards to horns and rhythm. I wonder then if Mother 3's "His Highness's Theme" would fall under the same category of rhythm and horns resemblance?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKzRhveK7sQ

EDIT: Also, why isn't this here yet:

Wild Arms - Migratory Bird of the Wilderness
The Good, the Bad, the Ugly - The Ecstasy of Gold

Wild Arms 4 - Gun Blaze
The Good, the Bad, the Ugly - title theme

Last edited by Rhythmroo; Oct 13, 2012 at 08:36 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old Oct 13, 2012, 09:37 PM
TerraEpon's Avatar
TerraEpon TerraEpon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 198
Default

Honestly if I had to guess I'd say the Kid Icarus was a delibarate homage.
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old Nov 2, 2012, 04:30 PM
theshredder theshredder is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1
Default

So all video game music is plagiarized? Thanks you bastards... now I can't enjoy video game music anymore.

It makes me wonder how many compositions are around that no one has exposed. I consider the whole "inspiration" and "homage" words being thrown around to be bull.

Unless the composer actually states somewhere (they don't) that they remixed the song, then I consider it plagiarism. As with all plagiarists, they just hope they don't get caught.

What happened to Kenji Yamamoto was the right thing. I don't even like composers taking only a few remixed songs here and there out of their portfolio and not referencing the source.

I'm not sure if the composer(s) of God Hand states that all the music is remixed, but if not, then regardless of how notorious the Hawaii Five-O theme is (or other music) and having the license to use it, I still consider it no better than plagiarism if there's no source mentioned anywhere.

The only other notorious one that I know of is Rock Howard's theme being a rip of that Children song.

In short, remixes are okay if they clearly state somewhere (album would probably be best), but they don't.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump