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Old Mar 6, 2009, 09:50 AM
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I would like confirmation on the composer here listed as "Hiroshi Tamura." Who came up with this? It seems highly suspect, considering EVERY OTHER Tales game with Motoi Sakuraba as a composer has his partner in crime, "SHINJI Tamura," with him on it. Is this not the person in question? I'd like to see the kanji on a "Hiroshi Tamura," or where this data come from. It seems abundantly clear to me that it ought to read Shinji Tamura, but I have no method of confirmation at this point.
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Old Mar 6, 2009, 10:04 AM
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Datschge's MS Wiki has Hiroshi Tamura (田村 宏史) as well. Shinji Tamura's name is 田村 信二 in Japanese, so it's not the same person, at least as far as I know.
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okay, MS Wiki also lists a "Hiroshi Tamura" on the Tales of Rebirth and Tales of Vesperia pages (not sure what capacity, I'm at work, filters out snesmusic.org).

But check this. Do a google search for this album's catalog number (BVCR-14044) and Hiroshi Tamura's name in Kanji (田村宏史). You'll get *zero* results. Run it again using Shinji Tamura's kanji, and you get two results, one of which seems like a legitimate Japanese site to me:

detail.psearch.yahoo.co.jp/i/6pR8_.e6.wkCoWMMWDu7nj/

Frankly, I don't trust Datschge's MS Wiki entry using Hiroshi Tamura. More research is required.
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I can't find 田村 信二 on the page.

Hiroshi Tamura is credited for sound effects in Tales of Rebirth and Vesperia.

I tend to trust Datschge, usually.
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Is that one specific google search a big issue? (the second is just the tag of niconico that google hit accidentally and is really unrelated to that page itself). Even if it is, how about trying again with "田村宏史" and "ハーツ" or "テイルズ"? I know it's still not much of a confirmnation either, but that's my point.

Datschge will settle this discussion (besides that 2ch leak, I mean), so I'd be rather curious about when Aoyama = Tamura is officially confirmed. There are some clues, but still.
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Old Mar 6, 2009, 04:35 PM
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All the staff info in the MS Wiki comes from the games's staff rolls as far as I know, so they should be 100% correct. Unless there was a mistake in the transcription I don't know why you wouldn't trust it.

Here is another site that lists Hiroshi Tamura as the composer: http://www.talesing.com/var/toh/index.php?id=credit
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here's another worthwhile question then, if we can determine it: is Hiroshi Tamura related to Shinji Tamura, or is it just a semi-common last name?
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so I'd be rather curious about when Aoyama = Tamura is officially confirmed. There are some clues, but still.
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This is even more interesting. hmm...
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In the liner notes Hiroshi Tamura says he did battles, dungeons and towns. Quite interesting.

Sakuraba vaguely mentions he did the FMV music (as usual).

Hibiki Aoyama doesn't comment, and since he's listed last in the composer list makes me think his role here was limited.


EDIT: Keroro RPG was composed by Hibiki Aoyama, Hiroshi Tamura & Kenta Yabe (no Sakuraba), so it's a good study case to guess who-did-what.
Though the synth still makes it hard. I guess 2.10 is Hiroshi Tamura's?

SECRIT AND EXCLUSIVE EDIT: Hiroshi Tamura was kind enough to tell me he did about 40 tracks, battle music being: 1.37, 1.44, 1.45 and 2.10. Makes a lot of sense to me.
With that out of the way, other unconfirmed battle themes surely are all by Sakuraba.

His answer was a bit confusing so I'm not 100% sure about the "40" figure. If you take out all the Sakuraba confirmed tracks (see below) + extra battle themes that Sakuraba would have done, that makes just 42 unconfirmed tracks. I'd expect Sakuraba and Aoyama to have done a bunch.
I'll try to inquiry more.


EDIT AGAIN: Vita sound test because.
Spoiler:
- Movie Player
オープニング / Opening [1.01 永遠の明日（テイルズ オブ ハーツ Version） / US new]
プロローグ / Prologue [1.03 雷鳴の逃避行 ~ 1.05 死地 ~ 1.07 魔道士インカローズ ~ 1.08 ふたつの月]
シング、初めてのソーマ / Kor's Soma Revealed
コハクとの出会い / Kor and Kohaku Meet
ヒスイ襲来 / Hisui Arrives on the Scene
いばらの森の眠り姫 / Sleeping Beauty
スピルーン四散 / Kohaku's Spiria Core Shatters [1.20 リンクアウト ~ 1.21 スピルーン、花の如く……]
日々寧日の女社長 / Meet the CEO of Wanderlust
歴戦のソーマ使い / The Veteran Somatic
カルセドニー登場 / A Knight in Shining Armor
ベリル、殴り込み！ / Beryl Bursts In
コハク覚醒 / Kohaku Awakens
クンツァイト起動 / Kunzite's Power Activates
月は満ちたり / The Moon Will Be Full!
眠り姫VS緋色の髪の魔王 / The Rise of the Minerans
いばらの森サンドリオン、浮上 / Mysticete, the Forest of Thorns [2.11 出現! 「いばらの森」]
巨大思念石を望む丘にて / The Great Willstone
ガルデニア覚醒 / Gardenia's Torpor Ends [2.15 終わりの始まり]
チームワークとはこういうものさ / Now That's What I Call Teamwork
結晶界へ落下 / Fall to the World of Death [2.19 白き世界へ]
飛行ソーマ、飛翔 / Flight to the Black Moon [2.23 Hearts to Hearts ~ 2.24 飛べ、決戦の地へ!! ]
ガルデニア最終決戦 / The Moment of Truth [2.29 星のスピリア]
つながるスピリア / When Two Spirias Bond
ガラド帰還 / The Conquering Hero Returns

- Music Player
(title)
TALES OF HEARTS / Tales of Hearts [1.02]

(battles)
神秘の武具ソーマ / Mystical Weapons called Soma [1.15]
発動、ソーマリンク!! / Somatic Bond Invoked [2.12]
たゆまぬスピリア / A Sound Spiria [2.18]
ゼロム出現 / Enter the Xerom [1.19]
折れない剣 / An Unbreakable Blade [1.30]
誰がために戦うか / For Whom Do You Fight? [2.05]
煌け! 星の如く / Shine Like a Star! [2.27]
VS プロトゼロム / VS Proto Xerom [1.45]
クリード・グラファイト / Creed Graphite [2.28]
飛翔! 対空!! / Fly! To the Heavens High! [1.37]
迫り来る女魔道士 / The Witch Draws Near [2.10]
極限すら超えて / Exceed the Utmost Limits [1.44]
境界一閃 / Push the Boundaries
異域への狭間で / A Void Between Strange Lands
解き放て！ソーマ / Soma, Be Free!
強襲、奮い立てスピリア！ / Violent Attack Rouses Spiria
ソーマを掲げろ! / Raise your Soma! [1.16]
スピリア消失 / Spiria Lost [1.31]

(fields)
今ここにある世界 / The World Here and Now [1.13]
結晶界 ～クォーティア～ / Minera [2.20]
まだ見ぬ地へと / Towards an Undiscovered Land [1.33]
絆の翼リアンハイト / Reinheit—Wings of Comradery [2.16]

(dungeons)
暗闇の底へ / To the Depths of Darkness [1.23]
果てなき旅路 / Never-ending Journey [1.29]
未知への恐怖 / Fear of the Unknown [1.36]
スピルメイズ ―哀― / Spiria Nexus —Sorrow— [1.18]
スピルメイズ ―怒― / Spiria Nexus —Anger— [1.27]
スピルメイズ ―喜― / Spiria Nexus —Joy— [2.13]
黄昏の森 / The Twilight Forest
迷いなき疾走 / Run In Without Hesitation [2.04]
しめされる勇気 / Courage Demonstrated [2.03]
千夜砂漠シェヘラ / Schehera Desert
バレイア教結晶騎士団 / The Valentin Crystal Knights [1.25]
機動結晶城サンドリオン / Flying Fortress Mysticete [2.17]
雷鳴山ブレーメ / Mount Bremen
帝国城、侵蝕 / Imperial Castle Contaminated [2.07]
別れの場 / Place of Parting
虚無の塔 / Tower of Nihility [2.22]
ガルデニアの鼓動 / Pulse of Gardenia [2.25]
トライバースゲート / Triverse Gate

(towns)
街～人々の営み / City—Hustle and Bustle [1.22]
にぎやかな広場 / The Busy Town Square [1.26]
「白化都市」 / A City Calcified [2.21]
あたたかな故郷 / A Place Called Home [1.12]
毎日がカーニバル♪ / Every Day is a Carnival♪ [2.01]
集え、戦士よ!! / Fighters Assemble! [2.02]
世界帝都エストレーガ / The Imperial Capital Straga [1.38]
麗しのプランスール / The Holy City of Prinseur [2.06]
結界の里 / The Village under a Barrier [2.14]

(events)
急転する世界 / A World Transformed [1.17]
enjoy life / Enjoy Life [1.34]
悲しみは世に満ちて / Sadness Fills the World [1.40]
真実を見つめる瞳 / Eyes that Gaze at the Truth [1.24]
スピルーンの輝き / The Shine of Spiria [1.10]
スピリアに希望を! / Give Hope to the Spiria! [1.28]
不思議生物ウィンダム / The Curious Creature Windum [1.35]
ピンチの後にピンチあり / Out of the Frying Pan... [1.14]
帝国軍の栄光 / Glory of the Imperial Army [1.39]
あふれだす悪夢 / Overflowing Nightmares [1.11]
忘れえぬ想い出 / Unforgettable Memories [1.32]
緋色の髪の魔王 / Man with the Scarlet Hair [2.09]
「いばらの森」のねむり姫 / Forest of Thorns' Beauty [2.30]
無限の闇 / Darkness Infinite [2.26]
日常の風景 / Everyday Sights
明日への架け橋 / A Bridge to Tomorrow
余映に残した夢 / A Remnant of a Dream
スピリアを繋げて / Connecting Spirias
顕現せし脅威 / Menace Manifest
Let’s Challenge!! / Meet the Challenge! [1.42]
? / Good Night, Sleep Tight.[*]
永遠の明日（Ending Version） / Eternal Tomorrow —ED Ver.— [2.31 / US new]
リチアの子守唄 / Lithia's Lullaby [2.08]
フローラの子守唄 / Fluora's Lullaby
バレイア教－賛美歌－ / A Hymn of the Valentin


All tracks not in OST are new (presumably battles by Sakuraba, others+arranges by Kazuhiro Nakamura).
The inn jingle exists in the DS ver. but wasn't in the OST nor in the DS sound test.
The sections are mine, the original sound test is just a big list.
All old movie names are same in the DS ver., which were changed in the OST.
The OP and ED have new compositions in the US version.

Lost tracks:
1.04 逃亡～森を抜けて (CG movie only)
1.06 恐怖の追撃者 (CG movie only)
1.09 月に誓う (CG movie only)
1.41 発見! 不思議タウン (town not in Vita)
1.43 重想空間ヘルウェルズ (dungeon not in Vita, swapped by Triverse Gate)
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In the liner notes Hiroshi Tamura says he did battles, dungeons and towns. Quite interesting.

Sakuraba vaguely mentions he did the FMV music (as usual).

Hibiki Aoyama doesn't comment, and since he's listed last in the composer list makes me think his role here was limited.
This is indeed interesting.

Hibiki Aoyama / Shinji Tamura, as we know, uses mostly a rather minimal, ambient pop/synth structure (like in Vesperia or Dawn of the New World), which isn't found on this soundtrack that much. Still there are a few examples like "Eyes Staring at the Truth" or "World Filled with Sorrow", which are just typically him (especially the bass line).

Hiroshi Tamura seems to imitate Sakuraba here with a similar orchestral texture, much thinner however, like "Overflowing Nightmare", "Glory of the Imperial Capital" or "Gather, Warriors!!". These are just guessings.

Motoi Sakuraba is easy to figure out at most pieces, some however I'm uncertain about.

Tracks, which are confirmed are:

FMV music (Disc 1: 3-9, 20, 21 ; Disc 2: 11, 15, 19, 23, 24, 29)
Battle music (Disc 1: 15 ; Disc 2: 5, 12, 18)
BGM music (Disc 1: 2, 12, 13, 28, 31, 33 ; Disc 2: 9, 16, 31 (arrange)

Sources: Liner Notes, ToH CG Movie Edition Visual & Original Soundtrack DVD, TotW: Radiant Mythology #3 (where he arranges 3 battle themes)
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So Hiroshi Tamura is also a member of the Symphonic Orchestra Yamato? A fact, I also never knew...
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Nah that was an errant link, the Yamato performer has a different Japanese name (田村洋).
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I generally agree on all but 2.20-22.

As for Hiroshi Tamura's mail:
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Thank you give me your email.
I made the song will be about 40 in music TOH.
In it, I listed below only battle music.

DISC1
45.VS プロトゼロム
37.飛翔!対空!!
44.極限すら超えて

DISC2
10.迫り来る女魔道士

I was still writing songs, TOG TOD2 TOV and much more.
The retired NAMCO, I have been responsible for the sound in the other
game companies now, thank the Tales in the future.
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Seeing how this is pretty much a historic thread on Hiroshi Tamura I think it's fitting to post more info on him here as well. He's been cryptic about it before, but lately he's open both on Twitter and FB that the game company he now works at is Capcom. Haven't seen any game credits listing him yet, but he's already mentioned once here on vgmdb, as music director for Euro Historia: http://vgmdb.net/album/45017
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That's nice, he's quite elusive and I couldn't find much about him before (other than his band 夜姫と熊猫).

For Tamura's "40" figure, if you count the track's length looped and add a few extra tracks it does reach 40 minutes so I guess it's possible.

For 2.20-22 the synths used (ex whistle in 20) don't seem very Sakuraba, but it's just my general impression.
Other tracks that could be (or not) Hiroshi Tamura's: 1.10 (Keroro TOWN06), 2.06, 2.30.
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He has a contact form in his site.

Not sure he'll say much else (he didn't respond further to me), maybe like Shinji Tamura he can't/won't talk about his Namco work...
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in the notes, it shouldn't be M2.31 ?
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Looks like Bandai Namco (through NexTone Inc.) recently started adding Tales soundtracks to youtube. The tracks for Tales of Hearts have per song composer credits which don't appear to be guesses:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePwv...Wnw5cXHRukClZY
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Looks like Bandai Namco (through NexTone Inc.) recently started adding Tales soundtracks to youtube. The tracks for Tales of Hearts have per song composer credits which don't appear to be guesses:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePwv...Wnw5cXHRukClZY
Neat! So we finally get official composer credits after 15 years lol
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Complete credits according to that playlist:
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Motoi Sakuraba: Disc1 2-10, 12, 13, 15, 16, 19-21, 23, 28, 30, 31, 33 / Disc2 03, 05, 09, 11, 12, 15-29, 31
Hiroshi Tamura: Disc1 11, 14, 17, 18, 24, 27, 29, 32, 35, 37-39, 41-45 / Disc2 01, 02, 04, 06, 08, 10, 13, 30
Hibiki Aoyama: Disc1 22, 25, 26, 34, 36, 40 / Disc2 07, 14
Shuichi Ikemori: Disc1 1 / Disc2 31 (uncredited)
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