-Based on the fact that Abe almost always goes after Sagat when he's involved in sound production (SFII, SFZero, SFZero3), I've come to the conclusion that Abe also handles this version of Sagat Stage, especially since it's just an upgrade of the original version. The same can be said of the other two themes he did in SFII. Syun, on the other hand, is merely filling the void left by Yoko's departure whilst composing a few new songs that also sound like they're from Shimomura as opposed to Abe.
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Originally Posted by depa
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In terms of audio, "Hyper Street Fighter II" on CPSII hardware is a simple "Super Street Fighter II Turbo" that contains the CPSII soundtrack and also the CPSI one with also Cammy, T.Hawk, Dee Jay, Fei Long and Akuma theme on CPSI version; it also contains an additional third instrumental arranged soundtrack in the port PS2 version and If I remember correctly also on the arcade.
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-Yes, but Hyper Street Fighter II was released long after SSFII and SSFII Turbo. Doesn't this mean that the CPS1 versions of Cammy, T. Hawk, Dee Jay, Fei Long, and Gouki never officially existed until the release of HSFII, or were they still found within the arcade/CPS2 versions of SSFII and SSFII Turbo?
The closest-sounding to the CPS1 versions of the five characters were the SNES versions (arranged by Ippo Yamada [?]), which would make Ippo the creator of the CPS1 versions and Syun the creator of the CPS2 versions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG3fSt2qM7Q - SSFII Cammy (SNES) [Has cymbal crash 5 seconds in] - Ippo Yamada (?) [Through RTRZ]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dByX0MDUzNA - HSFII Cammy (CPS1) [Has cymbal crash 5 seconds in] - Syun Nishigaki (?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OKYCv68VQM - SSFII Cammy (GEN) [Definitely NOT this one due to lack of cymbal in beginning] - Tadashi Joukagi, Setsuo Yamamoto (?) [No credits]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcZEpGVAPig - SSFIIT Cammy (3DO) [Definitely NOT this one due to an added piece 8 seconds in] - Ippo Yamada (?) [Through RTRZ]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T72v_OPkBHw - SSFII/SSFIIT/HSFII Cammy (ARC/CPS2) - Syun Nishigaki
Furthermore, the CPS1/ARC versions of characters originating from SFII are
EXACTLY the same as those on HSFII's CPS1 soundtrack, so in theory, anything close to CPS1 is just as good for the new-to-SSFII tracks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQw-a8sApLQ - SFII (ARC/CPS1) Ryu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6Hb4TKLOts - HSFII (CPS1) Ryu
Different version credits
*SFII + SFIIT (ARC/CPS1/CPS Changer) = Yoko Shimomura, Isao Abe [MD]; Yoshihiro Sakaguchi, Tatsuya Nishimura [SD]
*SFII': SCE + SFII: RE (ARC/CPS1/CPS Changer) = Yoko Shimomura, Isao Abe [Sound]; Yoshihiro Sakaguchi, Tatsuya Nishimura [SE] <--- Same as SFII + SFIIT (ARC/CPS1/CPS Changer)
*SFII (SNES) = Yoko Shimomura, Isao Abe [MD]; Yoshihiro Sakaguchi [SSD]; Tatsuya Nishimura [SED] <----All collectively credited as "Sound Design" [SD]; SFIIT (SNES) [which is almost 100% the same in terms of music and sound effects] correctly breaks them down.
*SFII (PC-DOS/C64) = David Lowe [Music & Sound]
*SFII': SCE (GEN and SMS) = Tadashi Joukagi, Setsuo Yamamoto [MD] ; Tatsuya Nishimura, Tadashi Joukagi [SE]
*SFII': SCE (TG16) = Mari Yamaguchi, Isao Abe [MD]; Yoshihiro Sakaguchi, Yasushi Ikeda [SSD]; Tatsuya Nishimura, Tadashi Joukagi [SED]
*SFIIT (SNES) = Yoko Shimomura, Isao Abe, Yuki Iwai [MD]; Yoshihiro Sakaguchi, Yasushi Ikeda [SSD]; Tatsuya Nishimura [SED] <---- Yoko credits this version on her website (and not others like the GEN or TG16 versions) despite not being credited on the in-game credits. This is because she had left Capcom by the game's release.
*SSFII + SSFIIT (ARC/CPS2/X68) + SFC [Includes SSFII and SSFIIT] (PSX/SAT) = Syun Nishigaki, Isao Abe [Music]; Nobuhiro Oouchi, Toshio Kajino [Sound]
*SSFII (SNES) = (?) [Music] [NOT the same as SFII or SFIIT (SNES)]; Ippo Yamada [Sound]
*SSFII (GEN) = (?) [Music] [NOT the same as SCE]; (?) [Sound]
*SSFII (PC-DOS) = (?) [Music]; (?) [Sound] ----> [NOT the same as SSFIIT (PC-DOS)]
*SSFIIT (3DO) + SSFII (FM Towns) = (?) [Music]; Ippo Yamada [Sound] ---> *Reused in Hyper Street Fighter II*
*SSFIIT (PC-DOS) = Neil Baldwin, Steve Duckworth [Music & Sound] [NOT the same as SSFII (PC-DOS)]
*SSFIIT (AMI) = George Dragon [Music]; (?) [Sound] [NOT the same as SFII (AMI) or SSFIIT (Amiga CD32)]
*SSFIIT (PC/Amiga CD32) = (?) [Music]; (?) [Sound]
*SSFIITR (GBA) = Chihiro Arisaka, Toshio Kajino [Sound]
*HSFII (ARC/CPS2/PS2/XBOX) = Mitsuhiko Takano [Music Arrange]; Hiroaki X68K Kondo [Sound Designer] --> Vocal version of Staff Roll only? (for Music) [In other words, is Takano the same person as Tatsui or Pakkun in Alph Lyla (the band)? If not then Takano had to have done the 3DO version]
MD=Music Design; SD=Sound Design; SE=Sound Effects; SSD=Sound Software Design (not necessarily SE); SED = Sound Effects Design
-I highly doubt Mitsuhiko Takano made them for HSFII's release, as the technology became highly outdated at that point. I think Takano only did the vocal version of Staff Roll, as it is the only 100% new track in the game; everything else is old stuff. Furthermore, the CPS2 versions sound more like upgrades of the CPS1 versions to me than rearrangements; it could have something to do with the difference of sound output between the two types; perhaps CPS2 just has one more channel (aside from higher sound quality and more instrument variety) than CPS1 which allowed what couldn't be played before to now be played. Between CPS1 Guile and CPS2 Guile, not a single part varied: everything was already there in CPS1; however the CPS2 versions is 2 seconds longer, but that is simply due to a slightly slower playing speed (about 6% slower than CPS1; no real differences aside from the resultant deeper tone). Same is true for Cammy expect it's a 1-second difference due to a shorter theme, which is why the change in tone between those two versions isn't as noticeable. By that logic, the 5 new CPS1 character themes (and any other themes new to SSFII) were also done by Syun.
VERY BIG EDIT:
"The CPS1 versions of the themes come from one of the Super Street Fighter II Turbo home ports but I cant remember the name of the console, it wasnt 3DO or FM-Towns it was even more obscure I think." -Renegade466isback
"I dont think it was that [CPS Changer], it was a home computer thing like Sharp X60000 watever its called one of those." -Renegade466isback
I trust Renegade's judgment; here's our answer for CPS1 compositions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_MaFMsf0aI