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Old Feb 3, 2024, 07:26 AM
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I just noticed that for some reason, the JP release has track 07 "Dan (Old Skool Mix)" shorter than the US release, at 4:50: https://gnudb.org/cd/so4a099507

US release for comparison (5:03):
https://gnudb.org/cd/so4409a007
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Your submission has been put on hold.

Type: track edit
Reason: Do you own the japanese release? If so, is it just cut off and 4:50, or is it different in some other way? I guess that the fact that it is on freedb means that the data was taken from a cd, so it is accurate (unless it might have come from a CDR burned from an mp3 collection). That's why I would like to find out a little more.

If this is accurate, then we will have to disconnect the western releases from this one.
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Old Feb 26, 2024, 07:10 PM
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@mudkipNDS

Your submission has been put on hold.

Type: track edit
Reason: Do you own the japanese release? If so, is it just cut off and 4:50, or is it different in some other way? I guess that the fact that it is on freedb means that the data was taken from a cd, so it is accurate (unless it might have come from a CDR burned from an mp3 collection). That's why I would like to find out a little more.

If this is accurate, then we will have to disconnect the western releases from this one.
Sorry for not replying sooner, but I had to find a good place to upload audio (Whyp.it / Clyp.it need accounts, Vocaroo isn't really appropriate, so I chose Catbox.moe). But first off, I have rips of both these albums on my PC, and here's the logs for both:

(JP) Victor VICL-2172:
Spoiler:
Code:
Exact Audio Copy V1.6 from 23. October 2020

EAC extraction logfile from 25. December 2021, 17:45

SPASM / Street Fighter ZERO2 Underground Mixxes "Da Soundz of Spasm" 【ストリートファイターZERO2 RE-MIX】

Used Drive  : HL-DT-STDVD+-RW GU90N   Adapter: 1  ID: 0

Read mode               : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache      : Yes
Make use of C2 pointers : No

Read offset correction                      : 102
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out          : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations       : Yes
Used interface                              : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling                                : Appended to previous track

Used output format              : User Defined Encoder
Selected bitrate                : 896 kBit/s
Quality                         : High
Add ID3 tag                     : No
Command line compressor         : C:\Program Files (x86)\Exact Audio Copy\FLAC\FLAC.EXE
Additional command line options : -8 -V -T "ARTIST=%artist%" -T "TITLE=%title%" -T "ALBUM=%albumtitle%" -T 
"DATE=%year%" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%tracknr%" -T "GENRE=%genre%" -T "PERFORMER=%albuminterpret%" -T "COMPOSER=%composer%" %haslyrics%--tag-from-file=LYRICS="%lyricsfile%"%haslyrics% -T "ALBUMARTIST=%albumartist%" -T "DISCNUMBER=%cdnumber%" -T "TOTALDISCS=%totalcds%" -T "TOTALTRACKS=%numtracks%" -T "COMMENT=%comment%" %source% -o %dest%


TOC of the extracted CD

     Track |   Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector 
    ---------------------------------------------------------
        1  |  0:00.37 |  5:13.03 |        37    |    23514   
        2  |  5:13.40 |  5:47.20 |     23515    |    49559   
        3  | 11:00.60 |  6:11.70 |     49560    |    77454   
        4  | 17:12.55 |  6:08.40 |     77455    |   105094   
        5  | 23:21.20 |  6:32.07 |    105095    |   134501   
        6  | 29:53.27 |  6:07.20 |    134502    |   162046   
        7  | 36:00.47 |  4:52.48 |    162047    |   183994   


Track  1

     Filename C:\EAC\SPASM - Street Fighter ZERO2 Underground Mixxes Da Soundz of Spasm [1996, Capcom, VICL-2172]\01 SAKURA (HOT THIGH MIX).wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.37

     Peak level 83.7 %
     Extraction speed 2.3 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC 4625343B
     Copy CRC 4625343B
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [45F3D187]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  2

     Filename C:\EAC\SPASM - Street Fighter ZERO2 Underground Mixxes Da Soundz of Spasm [1996, Capcom, VICL-2172]\02 DHALSIM (HEAD IN CLOUDS MIX).wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.34

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 2.7 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC 5DD381BD
     Copy CRC 5DD381BD
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [5BA31956]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  3

     Filename C:\EAC\SPASM - Street Fighter ZERO2 Underground Mixxes Da Soundz of Spasm [1996, Capcom, VICL-2172]\03 BIRDIE (SUBTERRANEAN MIX).wav

     Pre-gap length  0:02:51.32

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 3.5 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 8F73D1C8
     Copy CRC 8F73D1C8
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [74C9D91D]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  4

     Filename C:\EAC\SPASM - Street Fighter ZERO2 Underground Mixxes Da Soundz of Spasm [1996, Capcom, VICL-2172]\04 (BEYOND NATURE MIX) KEN Stage.wav

     Pre-gap length  0:01:29.61

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 3.3 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC 786A7EF8
     Copy CRC 786A7EF8
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [B9C0F5EF]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  5

     Filename C:\EAC\SPASM - Street Fighter ZERO2 Underground Mixxes Da Soundz of Spasm [1996, Capcom, VICL-2172]\05 (BEYOND NATURE MIX) RYU Stage.wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:00.74

     Peak level 97.9 %
     Extraction speed 3.6 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC EA964742
     Copy CRC EA964742
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [FD557280]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  6

     Filename C:\EAC\SPASM - Street Fighter ZERO2 Underground Mixxes Da Soundz of Spasm [1996, Capcom, VICL-2172]\06 SAKURA (SPILT POPPERS MIX).wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.35

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 4.3 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 5909F970
     Copy CRC 5909F970
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [A2A8127A]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  7

     Filename C:\EAC\SPASM - Street Fighter ZERO2 Underground Mixxes Da Soundz of Spasm [1996, Capcom, VICL-2172]\07 DAN (OLD SKOOL MIX).wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:00.03

     Peak level 89.5 %
     Extraction speed 4.5 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 86764BB1
     Copy CRC 86764BB1
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [B2D3E0D7]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK


All tracks accurately ripped

No errors occurred

End of status report

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[CTDB TOCID: wXU6OzaBwfUUw2Nv_sqTRQQ2JJ8-] found
Submit result: wXU6OzaBwfUUw2Nv_sqTRQQ2JJ8- has been confirmed
Track | CTDB Status
  1   | (3/3) Accurately ripped
  2   | (3/3) Accurately ripped
  3   | (3/3) Accurately ripped
  4   | (3/3) Accurately ripped
  5   | (3/3) Accurately ripped
  6   | (3/3) Accurately ripped
  7   | (3/3) Accurately ripped


==== Log checksum BEA6753F4032966B95AECB4F948D52001346EBB364C2A48827317A2098AED5E7 ====

(US) Viz Music CD-SF01:
Spoiler:
Code:
Exact Audio Copy V1.3 from 2. September 2016
 
EAC extraction logfile from 9. December 2020, 23:17
 
SPASM / Street Fighter Alpha 2 Underground Mixxes "Da Soundz of Spasm"
 
Used drive  : HL-DT-STDVD+-RW GU90N   Adapter: 1  ID: 0
 
Read mode               : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache      : Yes
Make use of C2 pointers : No
 
Read offset correction                      : 102
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out          : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks   : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations       : Yes
Used interface                              : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling                                : Appended to previous track
 
Used output format              : User Defined Encoder
Selected bitrate                : 896 kBit/s
Quality                         : High
Add ID3 tag                     : No
Command line compressor         : C:\Program Files (x86)\Exact Audio Copy\FLAC\FLAC.EXE
Additional command line options : -8 -V -T "ARTIST=%artist%" -T "TITLE=%title%" -T "ALBUM=%albumtitle%" -T "DATE=%year%" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%tracknr%" -T "GENRE=%genre%" -T "PERFORMER=%albuminterpret%" -T "COMPOSER=%composer%" %haslyrics%--tag-from-file=LYRICS="%lyricsfile%"%haslyrics% -T "ALBUMARTIST=%albumartist%" -T "DISCNUMBER=%cdnumber%" -T "TOTALDISCS=%totalcds%" -T "TOTALTRACKS=%numtracks%" -T "COMMENT=%comment%" %source% -o %dest%
 
 
TOC of the extracted CD
 
     Track |   Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector 
    ---------------------------------------------------------
        1  |  0:00.00 |  5:12.40 |         0    |    23439   
        2  |  5:12.40 |  5:47.20 |     23440    |    49484   
        3  | 10:59.60 |  6:11.70 |     49485    |    77379   
        4  | 17:11.55 |  6:08.40 |     77380    |   105019   
        5  | 23:20.20 |  6:32.07 |    105020    |   134426   
        6  | 29:52.27 |  6:07.03 |    134427    |   161954   
        7  | 35:59.30 |  5:05.32 |    161955    |   184861   
 
 
Track  1
 
     Filename C:\EAC\SPASM - Street Fighter Alpha 2 Underground Mixxes 'Da Soundz of Spasm' [1999 US Viz Music]\01 Sakura (Hot Thigh Mix).wav
 
     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00
 
     Peak level 83.7 %
     Extraction speed 2.7 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC D9172F72
     Copy CRC D9172F72
     Accurately ripped (confidence 3)  [F2D9953B]  (AR v1)
     Copy OK
 
Track  2
 
     Filename C:\EAC\SPASM - Street Fighter Alpha 2 Underground Mixxes 'Da Soundz of Spasm' [1999 US Viz Music]\02 Dhalsim (Head In The Clouds mix).wav
 
     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.43
 
     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 2.7 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC C344ECC1
     Copy CRC C344ECC1
     Accurately ripped (confidence 3)  [3DB43B70]  (AR v1)
     Copy OK
 
Track  3
 
     Filename C:\EAC\SPASM - Street Fighter Alpha 2 Underground Mixxes 'Da Soundz of Spasm' [1999 US Viz Music]\03 Birdie (Subterranean Mix).wav
 
     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.55
 
     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 3.6 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC B236DB24
     Copy CRC B236DB24
     Accurately ripped (confidence 3)  [AA3918F4]  (AR v1)
     Copy OK
 
Track  4
 
     Filename C:\EAC\SPASM - Street Fighter Alpha 2 Underground Mixxes 'Da Soundz of Spasm' [1999 US Viz Music]\04 (Beyond Nature Mix) Ken Stage.wav
 
     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.73
 
     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 3.3 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC C4F5E092
     Copy CRC C4F5E092
     Accurately ripped (confidence 3)  [C3A643CF]  (AR v1)
     Copy OK
 
Track  5
 
     Filename C:\EAC\SPASM - Street Fighter Alpha 2 Underground Mixxes 'Da Soundz of Spasm' [1999 US Viz Music]\05 (Beyond Nature Mix) Ryu Stage.wav
 
     Pre-gap length  0:00:01.35
 
     Peak level 97.9 %
     Extraction speed 3.7 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC BEB91486
     Copy CRC BEB91486
     Accurately ripped (confidence 3)  [4DD236C5]  (AR v1)
     Copy OK
 
Track  6
 
     Filename C:\EAC\SPASM - Street Fighter Alpha 2 Underground Mixxes 'Da Soundz of Spasm' [1999 US Viz Music]\06 Sakura (Split Poppers Mix).wav
 
     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.52
 
     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 4.5 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 8B10C48D
     Copy CRC 8B10C48D
     Accurately ripped (confidence 3)  [BD790E69]  (AR v1)
     Copy OK
 
Track  7
 
     Filename C:\EAC\SPASM - Street Fighter Alpha 2 Underground Mixxes 'Da Soundz of Spasm' [1999 US Viz Music]\07 Dan (Old Skool Mix).wav
 
     Peak level 91.0 %
     Extraction speed 3.9 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC A5CFF0A2
     Copy CRC A5CFF0A2
     Accurately ripped (confidence 3)  [455A91CE]  (AR v1)
     Copy OK
 
 
All tracks accurately ripped
 
No errors occurred
 
End of status report
 
---- CUETools DB Plugin V2.1.6
 
[CTDB TOCID: XQoe75T2daNVemNsGkbRT_s6fL8-] found
Submit result: XQoe75T2daNVemNsGkbRT_s6fL8- has been confirmed
Track | CTDB Status
  1   | (2/2) Accurately ripped
  2   | (2/2) Accurately ripped
  3   | (2/2) Accurately ripped
  4   | (2/2) Accurately ripped
  5   | (2/2) Accurately ripped
  6   | (2/2) Accurately ripped
  7   | (2/2) Accurately ripped
 
 
==== Log checksum 358370C8C78623DEF0931442A17D82835188A583B9C46BF1F1957C6159E8203F ====

And here are the TOCs (Tables of Contents) for both specifically:

(JP) Victor VICL-2172:
Code:
TOC of the extracted CD

     Track |   Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector 
    ---------------------------------------------------------
        1  |  0:00.37 |  5:13.03 |        37    |    23514   
        2  |  5:13.40 |  5:47.20 |     23515    |    49559   
        3  | 11:00.60 |  6:11.70 |     49560    |    77454   
        4  | 17:12.55 |  6:08.40 |     77455    |   105094   
        5  | 23:21.20 |  6:32.07 |    105095    |   134501   
        6  | 29:53.27 |  6:07.20 |    134502    |   162046   
        7  | 36:00.47 |  4:52.48 |    162047    |   183994
(US) Viz Music CD-SF01:
Code:
TOC of the extracted CD
 
     Track |   Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector 
    ---------------------------------------------------------
        1  |  0:00.00 |  5:12.40 |         0    |    23439   
        2  |  5:12.40 |  5:47.20 |     23440    |    49484   
        3  | 10:59.60 |  6:11.70 |     49485    |    77379   
        4  | 17:11.55 |  6:08.40 |     77380    |   105019   
        5  | 23:20.20 |  6:32.07 |    105020    |   134426   
        6  | 29:52.27 |  6:07.03 |    134427    |   161954   
        7  | 35:59.30 |  5:05.32 |    161955    |   184861
As you can see, nearly all tracks have a similar length except for track 7. And finally, here's a link to the JP track and US track (both in 320kbps MP3):
(JP): https://files.catbox.moe/3apz8l.mp3
(US): https://files.catbox.moe/llsac0.mp3

Comparing the two versions, I notice the piano seems to be mixed up compared to the more common US/vocals mix, and there seems to be better stereo definition too? However, the main differences start at 2:16 approximately:
  • 2:16 - US ver. has instrument starts playing in left channel until 2:22, ABSENT from JP disc
  • 2:22 - US ver. has sustained echo on vocals at 2:22 going into piano section, fades out quickly on JP disc
  • 2:28 - MAIN DIFFERENCE: US version features vocals section with freestyle singing on 2:34, ALL ABSENT from JP disc
So yeah, these are definitely 2 separate versions, but I can't say for sure if the British CD has these differences or not. Also I just noticed the length of JP track 7 is actually 4:52.48. Converting that from CD frames to milliseconds (48 out of 75 frames), you get 4:52.640, or rounded up to 4:53. So it seems my original edit of 4:50 isn't really correct.

BTW I should probably go ahead and note this in the forum thread here, since it doesn't seem to be documented elsewhere: https://vgmdb.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5348
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Old Feb 29, 2024, 01:39 PM
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Thanks for the research. It is very interesting to hear the differences between them and to wonder why they decided to do this. For now, I am grouping the UK version with the US one until we know for sure.
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Thanks for the research. It is very interesting to hear the differences between them and to wonder why they decided to do this. For now, I am grouping the UK version with the US one until we know for sure.
No problem, glad to help out. FYI I've just updated my forum post in the thread for the Japanese CD to include all the info from my earlier post here
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