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Old Dec 15, 2007, 04:03 AM
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It's time to resolve an enigma and I need your help. The enigma in question is this: Who arranged this album?

It's not a question easy to answer. Searching on the web, I've seen as arranger of this album to the following people: Shiro Sato, Reiko Nomura, Nobuo Uematsu and Shiro Sagisu.

There are diversity of opinions and I don't have idea what is the correct one. This mystery can be solved if someone has access to the liner notes, meanwhile I can only speculate.

This page http://gamerseden.kir.jp/soundtrack/ff/ff6pf.html
is specially interesting 'cause explains the album's production process. Btw, it gives the arrangement credit to Shiro Sagisu.
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And well, anybody can throw light on this???
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Old Mar 1, 2008, 04:06 AM
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Eh, the album reprint you linked to indeed has liner notes.

There are no names mentioned for arranger anywhere. Nobuo Uematsu is listed as composer and producer, while Reiko Nomura is only listed as performer. Shiro Sagisu and Shiro Sato are nowhere to be found.
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It's really weird that there's no arranger credit mentioned for the NTCP release. Especially since credit is given for its FFIV and FFV counterparts. But Shiro Sagisu isn't an unrealistic possibility, since he was involved with the arranging of Grand Finale.

I guess it's also a possibility that the original release (PSCN-5005) has the credit.
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Old Apr 11, 2008, 11:12 PM
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I just bought a used copy of the first print of FF VI Piano Collections from http://www.vgmworld.com. The Information will be the same for the reprints. Once I get it in a couple of weeks I will post the information here (if I can search through the Japanese writing, which I can only read Hiragana and a little Katakana). There are probably fields for composer (Nobuo Uematsu), arranger (who wrote the songs for piano) and performer (whoever actually played the piano for the recordings).
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EDIT ON SATURDAY APRIL 19 2008: Wikipedia lists the arranger as Shiro Satou: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_o...nal_Fantasy_VI

I got the first print CD last week, so if anyone wants me to upload scans of certain pages let me know-- I've got my own domain for uploading stuff like that.
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It looks like we're mostly missing the interior booklet scans, if it has any, so those might be worth scanning.
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Old Apr 19, 2008, 10:13 AM
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I got the first print CD last week, so if anyone wants me to upload scans of certain pages let me know-- I've got my own domain for uploading stuff like that.
Please do. Since all we've got at present is a low-res scan of the front of the book, individual scans of the front/back of the book, all pages,as well as the cd would be much appreciated.
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Old Apr 19, 2008, 10:41 PM
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Default Scans are coming soon!

Thanks for everyone's enthusiasm in wanting these scans. I know have FF IV, FF V, and FF VI Piano Collections, all of them the first prints with the CDs encased in the hardcover piano books.

I don't know when I will be able to do scans-- possibly tomorrow or sometime throughout next week. It may take longer than it would to scan stuff like this normally, because getting all three of these albums was really just pure luck and good timing on my part, and I want to take extremely good care of these 'little babies.' I will scan all of the pages, as well as the front and back covers and disc labels. They will be 300 DPI JPEG format files. Once they have been scanned I will upload them to a directory on my server.

After I do all of this, I expect some people to email me and arrange a private Final Fantasy IV - 6 Piano concerto at my house, and make sure Nobuo Uematsu attends as well, so that he can sign all of my new FF piano collection 'babies,' thanks everyone (LOL! J/K!) ;-<>!
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Old Apr 20, 2008, 11:31 PM
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Hi VGM lovers,

Here are the promised scans of the FF IV , FF V, & FF VI piano collections hardcover books.: Insteadof clicking, you'll have to cut and paste the links into your browser URL address field, sorry ;-<>!.

FF IV:


http://crosskoru.com/ffpiano/FF%20IV...ctions0001.JPG

http://crosskoru.com/ffpiano/FF%20IV...ctions0002.JPG

http://crosskoru.com/ffpiano/FF%20IV...ctions0003.JPG

http://crosskoru.com/ffpiano/FF%20IV...ctions0004.JPG

http://crosskoru.com/ffpiano/FF%20IV...ollections.JPG

FF V:

http://crosskoru.com/ffpiano/FF%20V%...ctions0001.JPG

http://crosskoru.com/ffpiano/FF%20V%...ctions0002.JPG

http://crosskoru.com/ffpiano/FF%20V%...ctions0003.JPG

http://crosskoru.com/ffpiano/FF%20V%...ctions0004.JPG

http://crosskoru.com/ffpiano/FF%20V%...ollections.JPG

FF VI:

http://crosskoru.com/ffpiano/FF%20VI...ctions0001.JPG

http://crosskoru.com/ffpiano/FF%20VI...ctions0002.JPG

http://crosskoru.com/ffpiano/FF%20VI...ctions0003.JPG

http://crosskoru.com/ffpiano/FF%20VI...ctions0004.JPG

http://crosskoru.com/ffpiano/FF%20VI...ollections.JPG

I would love to have scans of all of the pages for all three of these, but I simply do not have the time to do a quality job of scanning all of them right now; each book has around 70 - 80 pages! Plus all I have is a regular desktop consumer scanner-- not the best for scanning books like these. The pages I scanned should have some pertinent information. I hope this helps people out.
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Old Apr 20, 2008, 11:54 PM
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Awesome! I fixed the links for you.

Edit: It seems like the 0001-0004 files for FF IV and FF V, and the last image for FF VI are giving me errors.


By the way, Shiro Sato is never credited anywhere in the FF VI scans.
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Thanks a lot for the scans aotearoa, great work! And don't worry about the sheet music pages, the important parts are the ones with actual information.

Really nice finds there, by the way. Those three are definitely some of the most exiting releases mainstream vgm has to offer.
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Old Jul 17, 2011, 03:52 PM
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The mystery of FFVI Piano arranger continues. Sigh... I hope, someday, we know the truth.
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Old Jul 15, 2012, 03:34 AM
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I wonder if Uematsu himself knows who arranged these pieces. Surely someone has already asked him at some point? Who would be the best person to contact and ask about this? Maybe the other Piano Collections arrangers?
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Old Jul 15, 2012, 04:21 AM
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This (the most trustworthy website I know) says it's Shiro Sagisu.

EDIT: wow, I've never read this thread until now and didn't look the past discussions! Never mind.

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Old Jul 16, 2012, 03:01 PM
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I wonder if Uematsu himself knows who arranged these pieces. Surely someone has already asked him at some point? Who would be the best person to contact and ask about this? Maybe the other Piano Collections arrangers?
I've twice met him and both times forgot to ask. I sent an email to Hiroki Ogawa (at Dog Ear Records) to see if he could ask Uematsu-san about it. I never heard back.
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Old Jul 20, 2012, 11:42 PM
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I also met him twice, but was too ignorant to know about this mystery at that time. Another mystery is: who is Reiko Nomura? There is a piano teacher with the same name on this site:
http://www.puretone.jp/school.html

I sent an email in Japanese by using their inquiry form, but haven't received a reply. I asked if she is the same Reiko Nomura who played piano on this album. I also explained that we have this mystery of not knowing who arranged the pieces.
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Old Jul 21, 2012, 06:40 AM
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I just sent the following tweet to Uematsu and Ogawa:

@UematsuNobuo @wappa_ogawa 謎 !! ピアノコレクションズ ファイナルファンタジーVI -- 誰编曲? http://vgmdb.net/album/4018 助けてください!

(rough translation: "A mystery! Piano Collections FFVI -- arranged by whom? (link) Please Help!")
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Old Jul 21, 2012, 06:49 AM
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Also, Nam, I'd guess that's the same Reiko Nomura. How many Reiko Nomuras in Japan aspire to be professional pianists?

On the other hand, I thought I'd do some photo comparison, and 15 years + black-and-white vs color makes it difficult. Here is Nomura with Uematsu from the first print of FFVI piano:



And here she is on the puretone site:



Hmmm...
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no "hello", just a "kudasai" ?
it'll be a miracle if any of them answers
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Old Jul 21, 2012, 12:52 PM
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what is this i don't even
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Sadly I never got a reply from that school. Now they have revamped their site. Here's a link to the school's instructors, including Reiko Nomura:
http://www.puretone.jp/instructor

There's a new picture of her and some info. She graduated from a music university in Tokyo in 1996. The FF VI Piano Collections was released in 1994. Square's HQ was probably in Tokyo at that time, unless they moved out and back in at some point.

I sent a new message to that school. I hope they reply this time.
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The next time anybody talks to Uematsu, please ask about this!
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Default Original Liner Notes...

I have the original release of this and FFI IV/ FFV Piano Collections, the hardcover books with the CDs inside the front covers. I actually had them signed by Uematsu-San several years ago when I met him in San Diego, California.

Would it helpful if I uploaded the scanned liner notes so those who can read Japanese can take a look at them?
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I have the original release of this and FFI IV/ FFV Piano Collections, the hardcover books with the CDs inside the front covers. I actually had them signed by Uematsu-San several years ago when I met him in San Diego, California.

Would it helpful if I uploaded the scanned liner notes so those who can read Japanese can take a look at them?
Not sure how 4 or 5 would help. What we need is 6. I have the hardcover of VI piano, there's no talk of an arranger anywhere in there.

Also ... didn't you scan and post links like 6 years ago, and they're in this very thread? But they've been pulled since?
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Nikolas Broman (Namorbia is his handle above), a Finnish writer who covers game music at blipico, just reported that at Final Symphony II in London, Nobuo Uematsu was asked in-person about FFVI Piano's arranger and he stated that it was Shiro Sagisu ... and specifically, that it was "the same person who arranged Grand Finale." I suppose Uematsu-san didn't realize it was such a secret? Wish I'd thought to ask him in the past.

In any case, this is the closest thing to a documented answer any of us have ever had. Fellow staff/admin -- is this grounds to list Shiro Sagisu as the arranger?
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It was me who asked Uematsu the question during the pre-concert talk. He didn't say it was "the same person who arranged Grand Finale," that was just my own addition to give context when I posted about it on Facebook. He specifically mentioned Shiro Sagisu by name and told a short story about recording the album. You can read my report on the pre-concert talk and concert in a few days.
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Alright, here is the pre-concert talk (and my review) from Final Symphony II in London:
http://blipico.com/final-symphony-ii-london-2015/

So is this enough for crediting Shiro Sagisu for the arrangement? I have an audio recording of the pre-concert talk as well, if anyone wants to hear Uematsu say the words himself

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That sounds legit to me. Time to add.
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