SQEX-10167~70: CHRONO TRIGGER ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK

[Zanasea]

I'm a bit puzzled with the tracklist. Original announcement said the soundtrack would feature 64 tracks, like the original sound version. Yet there are 78 here. Besides, they've removed the last 5 tracks from the music list on the official website.

[Blitz Lunar]

it seems the four omake tracks that first appeared on the Playstation release have finally made their way onto an official Chrono Trigger OST! About time. I've added Tsuyoshi Sekito as he originally composed those (i assume that'll appear in the booklet anyway.)

[urutapu]

To clarify, the English translations I put up are from the English game's Music box feature.

[Kaleb.G]

Does anyone know if these all recorded straight from the DS? I haven't played the DS version and I wonder how the quality of this OST compares to the original OSV.

[seanne]

Originally Posted by Kaleb.G

I haven't played the DS version and I wonder how the quality of this OST compares to the original OSV.

I've played the DS version and I honestly didn't hear any difference at all. And I've listened to the SNES OSV a lot so I expect I wouldn't noticed. So don't expect any great difference here, not like the DS versions of FF III and IV or anything.

[Jormungand]

Yeah, the OST sounds pretty identical. However, one thing I noticed during gameplay was the awful-sounding bass.

[CaptainCommando]

Regarding the DVD, anyone know if the interview has English subtitles or if the DVD is Region 2? (not that region encoding matters to me)

[Myrkul]

I think the 4th disc (the DVD) should not be in the tracklist.. it's only videos, and not part of the "album" itself.

[Metroid]

Originally Posted by Myrkul

I think the 4th disc (the DVD) should not be in the tracklist.. it's only videos, and not part of the "album" itself.

Agreed, instead it should be listed on the notes as it is.

[Secret Squirrel]

On the other hand, there is a Mitsuda interview on there, and the rest of the content is music videos, so it is of interest. I guess the question is whether it should be listed in its own separate entry.

[Metroid]

Are the tracks "Disc 3 20-23" exclusive for the Nintendo DS version only? I'm asking because I never heard any of them before.

Seanne: I can hear the difference, the DS version is lighter and softer, less KHz and drums. I would call a cheaper version compared to the Original Sound Version.

Disc 3 Tracks 20-23 are amazing, great work.

[strugglepoo]

Those 4 tracks appear in the Playstation version in the extras menus. They were composed by Tsuyoshi Sekito.

[Metroid]

They should have released them on the Playstation Version, shame on them.

Thanks strugglepoo for having clarified that.

[Blitz Lunar]

i already clarified it earlier :<! i agree though, they definitely should have been released on the '99 soundtrack. they're great tracks, too. better late than never.

[Ramza]

What's really hip about the bonus Sekito tracks is that he uses SNES FM-synth to write the tracks. One might mistake it for Mitsuda.

[PsychoZeke]

So those new tracks are the only thing special / different about this release? Well, other than the DVD, of course...

[Metroid]

Disc 3 track 20 is special

[Blitz Lunar]

.. yet the person who last edited the notes field credited it to mitsuda rather than sekito. probably best to just leave the notes field blank until there's scans.

the only other difference aside from the extra tracks is that all the tracks will be Nintendo DS versions rather than SNES or Playstation (arranged tracks aside.)

[Dunther]

I know that are translations from japanese, but the title of track 2-05 (Lavos's Theme) is really correct? Seems like a typo to me...

[Gigablah]

A grammar issue =)

It's supposed to be taken from the game's music box feature, so that may be an official mistake.

[CHz]

Yeah, it's "Lavos's Theme" in the sound test, with a second S.

(naturally, like everything in English, there is disagreement about whether or not you should include the S after the apostrophe in possessive forms of singular nouns ending in an S sound)

((brb adding Esperanto tracklists to all albums))

[ZeaLitY]

Someone at the Chrono Compendium who purchased this is reporting read/sync errors on tracks 22 and 23 on disc 3 (using EAC, highest settings). Can anyone verify if these are native to the discs? There are no scratches on her copy of disc 3 or other visible signs of damage.

Edit: By the way, it is Sekito for those four PSX extras menu tracks; source from a Mitsuda interview:

http://www.originalsoundversion.com/?p=915

Edit 2: Also, greetings to Kaleb G.; haven't seen you since you found the Chrono Break copyright.

[razakin]

Originally Posted by ZeaLitY

Someone at the Chrono Compendium who purchased this is reporting read/sync errors on tracks 22 and 23 on disc 3 (using EAC, highest settings). Can anyone verify if these are native to the discs? There are no scratches on her copy of disc 3 or other visible signs of damage..

It could be the rippers cd drive messing up. Are those read/sync errors at end of tracks or middle? And have he tried to rip some other cds?

But then, it could be a bad batch/print, those do happen very rarely.

[ZeaLitY]

Not sure about track 23, but for track 22, it's at the 0:24-0:25 mark.

[Radical Pan]

Originally Posted by Razakin

It could be the rippers cd drive messing up. Are those read/sync errors at end of tracks or middle? And have he tried to rip some other cds?

But then, it could be a bad batch/print, those do happen very rarely.

Hello :] I'm the girl ZeaLitY was talking about.

The errors occur around the beginning, around 65% and at the end of the track. I was able to rip track 22 without any Read/Sync error after the sixth or seventh try, but it still said something, I'll copy paste the log info:

Track 22

Suspicious position 0:03:04

Peak level 99.9 %
Track quality 99.1 %
Test CRC C566D378
Copy CRC C566D378
Track not present in AccurateRip database
Copy finished


About track 23, I just can't make it happen. I've tried in both of my desktop and laptop, same profile using EAC, and it stills gives me the same error. The only thing that varies is where it gets stuck, sometimes it's a the beginning, sometimes around 94%. Here's the log info:

Track 23

Suspicious position 0:03:18 - 0:03:19
Suspicious position 0:03:25
Suspicious position 0:03:27 - 0:03:32

Peak level 99.9 %
Track quality 97.4 %
Test CRC 745CF078
Copy CRC 19111563
Track not present in AccurateRip database
Copy finished


Disc 1 and 2 rips went 100% error less. So it's not any of my disc drives/rom.


Thanks for the help btw <3

[LiquidAcid]

Looks like a mastering error to me. It's only weird that the CRC for both copy and test matches on track 22. Can you confirm that the position given by EAC (at 0:03:04) is really "suspicious"?

Track 23 however looks like it has "genuine" bad sectors, which give random data each time the drive reads them.

@Razakin: Don't they have some sort of quality check for the discs?

[razakin]

Originally Posted by LiquidAcid

@Razakin: Don't they have some sort of quality check for the discs?

No idea if they go through all the discs what comes out of the press. But after reading Radical Pain's post, it does sound bit like mastering error. Though, haven't much heard those on cd-side, dvd-side I've heard a few and suffered from one.

Hopefully some other people can show their logs and experiences with that disc.

Originally Posted by Radical Pan

Disc 1 and 2 rips went 100% error less. So it's not any of my disc drives/rom.

Well, I've noticed that my cd-dive is getting old, atleast it does sometime give that Suspicious position error on the last track and usually on the last second, some discs go ok fine, some don't.. So I wondered if that would have been the case.

[ZeaLitY]

I was able to find a lossless rip somewhere else; the discs were ripped in single files (is that normal these days, by the way? To distribute an entire CD as one FLAC? I've been depacking them in foobar to individual songs; hope that's not violating some VGM commandment or something).

Selected range

Filename F:\UP_PACK_NEW\CHRONO TRIGGER OST (NDS) DISC 3.wav

Peak level 99.9 %
Range quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 54279F18
Copy CRC 54279F18
Copy OK

No errors occurred

So it could be a drive issue for Radical Pan, although it's troublesome this has happened on two different drives.

[razakin]

Originally Posted by ZeaLitY

(is that normal these days, by the way? To distribute an entire CD as one FLAC? I've been depacking them in foobar to individual songs; hope that's not violating some VGM commandment or something).

Well, atleast most of the japanese people who share game music do use single image (liquidAcid will correct me if the term is wrong) file either in APE, FLAC or WV format along with cuesheets + log files most of the times. Sure there's TTA-format which has gotten pretty popular in there, and also TAK.

So in short: Yes.

Originally Posted by Radical Pan

My desktop's dive is LG, and my laptop is 4 days old, I just bought it, it's a customized Dell Studio XPS 16, but I don't know what brand is the dive inside it. I ripped one of my U2 CDs to test it in FLAC before doing it with this OST, and everything went well. I'm just curious I got the same error on the same track on 2 totally different computers.

That really sounds like you have bad copy of the album, but if you can't hear any pops/glitches when you listen those two tracks, I don't see much reason to worry so much.

[LiquidAcid]

Originally Posted by Razakin

Well, atleast most of the japanese people who share game music do use single image (liquidAcid will correct me if the term is wrong) file either in APE, FLAC or WV format along with cuesheets + log files most of the times. Sure there's TTA-format which has gotten pretty popular in there, and also TAK.

Huh? I'm not a native speaker, so I won't comment on whether the term is right or wrong. I wouldn't even know how to accurately describe it in german *g*

Anyway, I'm using a combination of ffmpeg and cuebreakpoints on linux to handle those rips (I also like splitted rips better, since they're easier to tag - at least for me).
ffmpeg can decode nearly anything to WAV (I think even TAK with a recent version) and after that you just feed the big WAV into cuebreakpoints which does the splitting.