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Old Oct 25, 2009, 08:26 AM
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I don't know if it makes much sense to add "available at"-links when the item is out of print.

See the current link (CD Japan), it clearly states the "out of print" status. Might be better to put this into the generic link area.
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Old Oct 25, 2009, 10:15 AM
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Some of the links were added by an automated script, so cases like this would inadvertently happen. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Old Oct 25, 2009, 01:12 PM
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The script did parse the page html to filter the out-of-print albums. Still, albums are continually going out of print, and we'll probably have to manually remove them as they do.
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Like I said, I wouldn't completly remove the link since it might still contain valuable information. Or at least it contains "historic" information (was once available at).

Maybe you can just mark these kind of links with something like a red cross, or something similar.
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Old Oct 26, 2009, 10:52 AM
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Like I said, I wouldn't completly remove the link since it might still contain valuable information. Or at least it contains "historic" information (was once available at).

Maybe you can just mark these kind of links with something like a red cross, or something similar.
They could be listed as "Reference" website links if needed. SS and I are discussing it here:
http://vgmdb.net/forums/showthread.p...2567#post12567
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Old Mar 4, 2010, 04:42 PM
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I am wondering if I have a bootleg version of this soundtrack.

The number is KICA-1337~1340, and at the top of the case's "spine" is a red label that says Namco Sound Gear with a Pac-Man next to it.

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I don't think so..
Generally bootlegs have different catalog numbers.

The Pac Man with "Namco Sound Gear" is official, it have been used previously, see that cover for example.
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Thank you for the speedy response, Myrkul.

By the way, is your user name based on a Forgotten Realms god?
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Old Apr 27, 2010, 05:18 PM
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I am not sure how to edit a child album without also editing the parent.
Disc 1 track 27 is Have a sweet dream
Disc 2 track 10 is An appearance
Disc 2 track 13 is In the ashes
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Old Apr 27, 2010, 07:08 PM
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Oh, so they fixed the printing errors in that edition? To create a tracklist that differs from the parent, you just have to submit a new tracklist on the child album. This delinks the tracklist.
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Old Apr 28, 2010, 05:12 PM
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The scans show fixed titles, but it seems they got reset when kyubihanyou reset the non reprint version to what it was before.
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Old Apr 28, 2010, 05:36 PM
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I've added a new tracklist for the reprint, with the changes reflected.
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I feel this may be asking a bit much, but not really being a fan of the Tales series nor being very familiar with the music.. in the notes it lists the composers and 'music' they composed, but can anyone make a list? It may not be accurate, so maybe that is why nobody has bothered to say any more than what is shown in the notes.

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Shinji Tamura was mainly responsible for the Sylvarant part, such as "Town of
a wind and ruins", and also tracks from the last part of the game.

Motoi Sakuraba was responsible for the Tethe Alla part, movie scenes, character themes, battle themes and the staff roll.

Takeshi Arai did sound program, sound effects, arranged tracks from previous games, theme music and such.
I seriously could only guess, but mainly I wonder if anyone KNOWS and is super pro and could pick apart it, but seeing as how it hasn't been done, I don't see why it would now.
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Old Jun 11, 2010, 10:05 AM
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That info comes from the liner notes, and while super vague that's the most official confirmation you'll ever get (btw--the notes in this reprint are different from the parent album, but the info is essentially the same).

I think Sakuraba says the PS2 version uses streaming rather than sequences with sound is from a sampler before porting the music to the GC (rather than the final result).

It's possible to make a fairly accurate 'guess list' with enough exposure to Sakuraba music and hints in other albums (ex.- Sakuraba only arranges his own music), but it's still just guesses.

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Old Jun 22, 2010, 05:37 PM
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A 'guess list,' eh? Perrrrfeeeeeect.

Shinji:
-Old familiar scent of Iselia, Talk about Sylvarant, The land of Sylvarant, Desert flower, Rovers, Along the beach, Harbor town, Town of a wind and ruins, Untold despair, Water symphony, Water symphony-despair-, Romany caravan, Venturers' colony, Search a seal ~Sylvarant~, escape from enemy base, Delightful day, Fun with idol!, Search a seal ~Tethe Alla~ ---> Sylvarant

-Unsatisfied desire, Overcome, Dike, I'm home, Behind us, In the ashes, Deep fear, On the very edge!, Off-key, Moonlight, A wood carving star, Shining dew, The grudge, On the tight rope, New one world, On the hill the night, Floating in the air ----> Non-anime scenes (Sylvarant)

-Derris-Kharlan ~appear~, Derris-Kharlan ~fear~, Derris-Kharlan ~shrine~, Derris-Kharlan ~requiem~ ---> Last part


Motoi:
-Lloyd, Collet, Genius, Refill, Kratos, Lloyd ~ocarina ver.~, Collet ~It is sad~, Refill -Relical Mode!-, Presea, Zelos, Regal, Shihna, Zelos ~serious arrange~, Mitos --> Character themes

-Far from our world, The Kingdom City of Meltokio, Darkside of Meltokio, A selfish want, Tethe Alla Castle, Walking on Tethe Alla, Academic city, Trip on the ship, Anchoret, Underground passage, Dry trail, In a shadowy woods, Deepest woods, Dance in the sunshine, Rest of the heart -Sanctuary-, Serenade of elves, The edge of nowhere, Last battle ~will~, Last battle ~decision~ ---> Tethe Alla

-AVIATORS ~Rhea-bird~, Secret from the blue sky, Eternal oath, Encount with Renegade, Judgment of MANA, Spirits whisper, Hidden sorrow, Thank for all ----> Non-anime scenes (Tethe Alla)

-a prologue, The tower, Confusion, An appearance, Firing, A break down, A sign, Be invoked, Harmony, Revival* ---> Movie (Anime) scenes
* (Phantasia - Goodbye friends)

-Full force, Won the battle, The struggle to survive, Fatalize, Like a glint of light, The law of the battle, The end of a thought, Keep your guard up!, Beat the angel, Keen-edged blade, It can waver and fight, Final destination ----> Battle themes

-Ending staff roll ---> Staff roll

Takeshi:
-Standing the pain (Phantasia - Penetrate), Fighting of the spirit (Phantasia - Fighting of the spirit), SHINOBI life (Phantasia - Ninja village), A snow light (Phantasia - Freeze), Forest of the Treant (Phantasia - Forest of the Treant) ---> Arrangement of old music

-TALES OF SYMPHONIA, Have a sweet dream, Nobody knows ---> Theme music

Please assist by any means if I miss something.


EDIT (06/24): Thanks Dag
EDIT (06/25): Thanks Datschge

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Old Jun 24, 2010, 02:32 PM
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Movies mean these anime/cg movies used in important scenes, not in-game sequences (Sakuraba handles these in Tales games).

Note they say they did "themes", not "THE themes". So it's fairly possible they both did a bunch of them. For example the Genius/Off-beat/Shihna/Fun with idol has a Tamuraish beat I think. I wonder about a couple of battle themes too.
It's worth looking into ToS Dawn of the New World OST since they reuse tracks and the synth differences are bigger thus easier to pick the styles appart.

Tracks arranged by Sakuraba in other Tales ASTs are his, so Full Force, Like A Glint Of Light, Eternal oath, Last Battle ~Decision~ (+ variations?), The End of a Thought + Kratos are at least confirmed.

Fighting of the Spirit is originally Tamura's (random trivia: confirmed in GB ToP Narikiri Dungeon). There are other arrangements of old music IIRC, Shinobi Life, Forest of the Treant and probably others,

EDIT: from Tamura, he did 30 tracks out of 111 in the OST.
http://yaplog.jp/mymusiclife/archive/23
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10/27に出たPS2版のゲーム『Tales Of Symphonia』のサントラです。
なんと4枚組~~~。
今回は111曲中30曲しか書いていません。
まあ、僕の場合ゲームはしないので、正直自分の曲がどれだかも不確か
です。(どうもスイマセン)

My take (WIP):
Spoiler:

Motoi Sakuraba:
101 102+ 108* 111 114? 119 115* 116* 127
201? 203* 208+ 209+ 210+ 212? 213? 214? 215? 219* 220*? 222 223 225? 226*?
301* 302* 303* 304 305* 306* 308 309* 310* 311? 312* 313 315* 316? 320 321* 322*? 323*? 325 326*? 327+ 328+ 330** 331 332
401? 402** 405* 407 408 409 410 411+ 412+ 413* 414* 415* 416* 418 419 420** 421** 422** 423+ 424+ 425+ 426

Shinji Tamura
103* 104* 105* 106* 107* 109*? 110* 112 113* 117* 118* 120* 121* 123* 124* 125* 126*
202* 204 205* 206* 207* 211* 216* 217* 221 224
307* 314* 317* 318? 319* 324*? 329*?
403* 404* 406? 417?

+ FMV
* has Tales of Symphonia Ratatosk no Kishi/Dawn of the New World ver.
** has Tales of the World Radiany Mythology 3 ver.
bold: arranged albums
same composition: 104-205 105-206 107-207 108-407 117-324 125-126 203-405 302-303 307-329 330-420-421-422 413-414-415-416 418-419
- 114: ?check ToVS 1.17-Aoyama
- 315: if this is accurate, Suzu ~= Mysterious Japon = SHINOBI Life


ToP arrangements, probably Takeshi Arai did only some (ie 424 sounds very much Sakuraba):
110 116 315 322 323 326 404 424

To my poor, untrained ears it seems Tamura uses a more 'flat' sound (brass/piano, fake-ish e.guitar, poppy beats) quite apparent in the sequel.



Also:
Missing tracks:
- Starry Heavens [GC JP op]
- Starry Heavens(hiroic) / Starry Heavens (Heroic) [GC JP/PS3 event]
- Tales of Symphonia Suite [GC US op]
- Tales of Symphonia Suite - Heroic [GC US event]
- そして僕にできるコト [PS2 op]
- そして僕にできるコト(hiroic) / What I can Do [PS2/PS3 event]
- Starry Heavens(ver.2013) [PS3 op 1]
- そして僕にできること(ver.2013) [PS3 op 2]
- 21 Tactics / 21 Tactics [PS2/PS3 blackjack]
- Fortune Reel / Fortune Reel [PS2/PS3 slots 1]
- Paradise Mode / On the Hill at Night [PS2/PS3 slots 2] (--US wrong name)
- Forgotten city / Forgotten City [GC/PS2 aerial city]
- NEKONIN! / Katz! [GC/PS2 katz village]
(also IIRC the PS2/PS3 version had 2 new movies, no new music I think)

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Old Jun 25, 2010, 10:54 AM
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All tracks with a ~subtitle~ use the same composition, so can't have different composers (affects Search a seal). All anime/CG movies in Tales games have different sound direction than in-game music and are most certainly by Sakuraba (Revival is definitively his, so is A prologue). Fatalize is closer to Tamura's style and (inofficially) credited as such at several Japanese places, he may have done some more battle themes. Instrumentation helps as well, Fun with Idol! is typical upbeat Tamura, Thank for all is Sakuraba's love for the Rhodes sound. Serenade of elves is definitely Sakuraba's as it's very close to Ivan's theme in Golden Sun. A snow light is an arrangement of ToP's Freeze.

Listening to the arrangements for the follow up game Dawn of a new Word (presuming the composers only arranged their own compositions) may help further (there many character themes sound like being by Tamura).
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So with the new edit to the tracktimes, does this album now show up on a FreeDB lookup? Also, I assume the new times should also apply to the parent printing.
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I made the edit to times because it wasn't showing up, but.. sometimes I wonder if it had shown up before (because someone did add times). Either way, maybe someone with the soundtrack could confirm that it does work for them?

edit: as a note, I'm using EAC (when using the freedb)

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Should the tilde marks be replaced with wave dashes?
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