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Is the front album art supposed to be rotated like this?
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I'm not a fan of rotating the booklet cover sideways like that, unless it really is a case shot (complete with Obi.)
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Agreed. A physical CD case can be instantaneously rotated, so I assume they figured they could get away with printing it however they wanted and still have it readable. I assume they didn't actually intend it to be read sideways, especially when the art lines up with the text.
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I reoriented the front scan on the original release and the reprint. The reprint still has an alternative scan with the old horizontal orientation.
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Shouldn't the display title say "Final Fantasy & Final Fantasy II" like it does on the front cover? I mean, it clearly doesn't say "Final Fantasy I".
I read it says "I・II" in Japanese on the Obi among one of few places, but that doesn't mean it should say "Final Fantasy I" on English, just because of that, does it? Last edited by Nisto; Mar 3, 2010 at 11:45 PM. |
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I think the front title is a better choice for this one, so good catch on this old error.
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Also, I've edited "Final Fantasy I, II" to "Final Fantasy Origins" in "Products represented" field, since this album is the original soundtrack of this collection.
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I see Johann Strauss II and Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky are credited. Which exact tracks did they compose?
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I believe 2-20 "Waltz" is Johann Strauss II's "Emperor Waltz" and 2-21 "Temptation of the Princess" is Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky's "Swan Lake". However I won't add this to the notes until someone can confirm.
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I have questions about a couple of the booklet's credits for this album. The first one reads:
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The next credit reads: Quote:
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I'm not sure, but the reprint words it all a little differently, perhaps an errata:
http://vgmdb.net/db/covers.php?do=view&cover=16389 Original phrase by Nobuo Uematsu. It could be based on a musical theme or sentence that was further arranged by Sekito. http://vgmdb.net/db/covers.php?do=view&cover=135935 Seems to have been corrected from Track 31 to Track 26&7 |
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Oh, okay. That's interesting. I guess later I'll do some scans and add something in the notes about the credits since they differ from the reprint. But I guess this means Tsuyoshi Sekito should be listed as a composer in these entries?
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this album is the ost for Final Fantasy (PS), Final Fantasy II (PS) and their Premium Package (PS) released one week before the games are out Final Fantasy Origins is just the translation of both games if the games had never been translated, so you couldn't use it as products represented |
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I'm not sure if you're supposed to post about this kind of thing, but I changed "Deep Place" to "To a Deep Place". The へ in 深き場所へ indicates direction and seems to have just been omitted, so I added it into the translation.
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Soundtrack really packs a punch in the beginning basically from track 4 The Prelude to track 10 Town. Fantastic music. If you are going to listen to anything, definitely go for Opening Theme, Main Theme, Chaos Temple and Town. Main Theme is so energetic and fun and full of adventure! Chaos Temple I find to be very unique with a great melody mixed in with that memorable backing in which I can't find the words for, although overall it is definitely not chaotic.
FFII portion is slightly inferior. I really liked Temptation of the Princess on that side. Overall pretty good. Nice beginning to the franchise's awesome music coming from Nobuo! Last edited by BahamutZ; Sep 24, 2014 at 04:31 PM. |
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Replying to Hellacia's and Secret Squirrel's ages-old posts. Sekito's work on Final Fantasy II was actually brought over and rearranged from the Wonderswan version which he also did. Here's a bit of a musical analysis of what he worked on:
Tracks newly added by Sekito to FF2:
Tracks expanded by Sekito for FF2:
And a comparison of the boss "Battle Scene" music used in the Famicom / PlayStation (and pretty much all remake) versions of FF2. It really changes the game's atmosphere a lot! Spoiler:
Oh, the "All Sounds of Final Fantasy I & II" album also has a never used and never arranged "Battle Scene 3" by Uematsu for the Famicom version. I would have preferred an arrangement of this as the regular boss battle theme for the remake versions... Given that there's a second FF2 "Dungeon" theme which Uematsu kept in stock for six years and rearranged as "The Magic House" for FF6! And two more unused compositions ("Shop" and "Airship") that were neither included in any version of FF2 nor arranged. Now, here's what got me wondering about the Wonderswan and PlayStation versions of FF1. It's sort of cryptic with its arranger credits. Comparing the Wonderswan credits of FF1... Spoiler:
...to the Wonderswan credits of FF2... Spoiler:
...we can see that Nobuo Uematsu is music supervisor for both the Wonderswan versions of FF1 and FF2. I find it unlikely Uematsu had to supervise FF1's music when he did the arrangements himself. Also note how FF2 credits Tsuyoshi Sekito as music composer and how the porting company changed from Tose to Kan Navi from FF1 to FF2. Could it be that one or several composers from Tose did the Wonderswan arrangements for FF1? Not a single staff member from Tose is listed by name in the credits. This album's booklet credits Sekito for the FF2 arrangements of the PlayStation version, but fails to specifically credit any arranger for FF1. The Wonderswan version of FF1 is almost a direct arrangement of the Famicom music. There are no newly added sections like in FF2, and the first few notes of "Dead Music" and "Ending Theme" were cut, as was the real, non-looping ending of "Ending Theme". Other than that, only the tempo and the instrumentation of the music is slightly changed, with "Dungeon" gaining that snazzy percussion, for example. Newly composed tracks for the Wonderswan version are:
The bulk of FF1's arrangement work really only started with the PlayStation version. In addition to including the Wonderswan compositions, it also added some new tracks:
Tracks expanded and changed by the arranger(s) for the PlayStation version of FF1:
So, who did the PlayStation version of FF1? Comparing its credits... Spoiler:
...to FF2's PlayStation credits... Spoiler:
...we can see that they bothered enough to change Sekito's FF2 remake credit from "music composer" to just "music" (probably because he arranged more than he composed?) and Uematsu's FF1 remake credit from "music supervisor" to "original music composed by". Which could mean anything from Uematsu having composed only the original Famicom music to having composed and arranged new, original music for the PlayStation version (which, except for "Opening Movie", doesn't really apply as all the new music is either arranged or lifted from the Wonderswan version). And again, Tose involved with FF1's PlayStation version without any names listed. Maybe it was really arranged by Tose staff. Some Tose composers are listed for the first time in the Game Boy Advance version credits of FF1 and FF2 (same music credits for both games): Spoiler:
The fact that Sekito and Kan Navi are not mentioned probably means that Tose handled the Game Boy Advance versions and the composers listed programmed the music data. The music for both games generally follows the PlayStation versions, but not without some noticeable changes to tracks such as FF1's "Opening Demo" (shortened) and "Boss Battle A" (the additional "Battle Scene" quote was removed again because the sound hardware didn't allow for this many voices). No such changes were made to FF2, the music was just adjusted to the hardware, as far as I can hear. One new track was added to the Game Boy Advance compilation:
The PlayStation Portable version of FF1 keeps the short version of "Opening Demo" from the Game Boy Advance version and the water bubble sounds in "Deep Place" were revised. Other than that, it is a port of the PlayStation version in terms of the arrangements, albeit with inferior sound quality. Although it is streamed audio, basses and heights are crippled and everything sounds more compressed than it should. Five arrangements were added to the game for the newly added boss battles:
The arrangements for FF2 didn't change at all (not counting the same sound quality downgrade as in FF1) and no new tracks were added. Just to make this complete, here's FF1's PlayStation Portable credits... Spoiler:
...and FF2's PlayStation Portable credits: Spoiler:
The Pixel Remaster version includes Sekito's new tracks for FF2 (except for "Opening Movie") but its merry band of arrangers omitted many of his expanded sections in other tracks, doing their own thing. Sekito himself had to play the guitar this time around but not in the "Main Theme" as that part was booted too. Sheesh! Here's the credits for the Pixel Remaster version as there's no other place to stuff it yet (FF1-4 Pixel Remasters all have almost the same music credits with only the "Remote Recording" sections being different): Spoiler:
Long story short, I think the PlayStation credits for FF1 can mean two things: Either Uematsu arranged the PlayStation version but the tracks added to the Wonderswan version were originally by Tose employees, or Tose employees did all composition and arrangements for the remake versions of FF1 (with the exception of Pixel Remaster). The stylistic similarities to Uematsu's earlier works would imply the former, but it could still be Tose employees mimicking his style or straight up lifting the passages in question from Uematsu's pieces. Last edited by zierts; Sep 14, 2021 at 04:32 AM. |
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"Last Battle" alone screams Uematsu to me, I would find it very hard to believe it's not his composition.
Unrelated, but has no one else ever noticed how extremely similar "Mid-Boss Battle" sounds to "Those Who Stand in the Way" from Terranigma? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj-Jk5zKQ4Y A bit of George Harrison style cryptomnesia there, perhaps? |
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Square Enix Music didn't provide any meaningful credits for the PS Version soundtracks they recently shared with YouTube. Just 3 copies of "Nobuo Uematsu" (artist, composer, arranger):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...mj3kiAT4T8k_WA |
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I'll also leave an exemplary video description for archival purposes: Quote:
And I think we should remove Uematsu as FF1 arranger from the album notes until we have confirmation who did it. |
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But you're right, I should rephrase: The video description credits are unreliable if they're not cross-referenced with other sources that back them up. I maintain we should err on the side of caution with these. I could even imagine the SQEX-10740 credits coming from the same source as the YouTube video descriptions, seeing how it also erroneously credits Uematsu for FF2's PlayStation version... |
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Had some thoughts on this because of the recent collection. I kind of wish they included this set as soundtrack options for FFI & 2 in the Pixel Remasters, I still think this is a great set of music.
I was kind of bummed out by the world map ("Main Theme") mix in FFII PR, I think Sekito nailed it with the sense of sadness on the PS1. I don't think the additional, new parts push that sadness any further. However, I thought the changes to "The Imperial Army" in PR were great and made a keystone track better. Was disappointed with "Tower of the Magi" tho. Also, as far as the game goes, I thought FFII in the Pixel Remasters was the best version thus far - if you exclude the bonus mode in the GBA version. |
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