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Old Apr 24, 2012, 12:11 PM
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What do the complete liner notes say (Hibiki Aoyama mainly)? Anyone can translate? Thank you
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 12:54 PM
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I don't see Aoyama's name anywhere in the notes section. Do you see it there?
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 01:38 PM
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Aoyama comes from staff roll, as mentioned on the notes on album page.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 01:56 PM
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No, I wasn't asking whether he contributed music. I know he did. I'm asking whether he contributed to the liner notes, which, as far as I can see, he didn't.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 01:59 PM
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Which is why Razakin said Aoyama comes from the staff roll... because Aoyama doesn't come from the liner notes. At least, that's what I understood. Because Aoyama doesn't come from the liner notes, he's not mentioned there at all. That is, as long as we're looking for the same kanji (青山 響) from the same liner notes (http://vgmdb.net/db/covers.php?do=view&cover=72623). However, we get Aoyama's credit from the staff roll, which is why we've added him in this entry as a composer.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 02:41 PM
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No he didn't contribute to the liner notes section, my mistake I thought he was someone else there. A shame...

It's just that I'm really curious about his role here, like it was in Hearts...
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Old Jul 15, 2012, 11:39 PM
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The note section says "Motoi Sakuraba: towns (ethnic), dungeons (synthy rhythms, dark and heavy, calm and beautiful), live instruments when possible, battles (cute, ethnic, orchestral), movies, staff roll"

So, I suppose Aoyama did everything that isn't this?
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Old Jul 16, 2012, 03:19 AM
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Not necessarily.
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Old Jul 16, 2012, 05:54 AM
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To elaborate, these are things "he did", but not "all he did". ie.- some towns/dungeons/etc may be by Aoyama, while stuff Sakuraba didn't mention (characters, events) by himself.
(except the "movies" tracks which I'm pretty sure Sakuraba makes them all)

Guess time:
Aoyama: 1.17, 1.20, 2.27, 3.01, 3.03, 3.07, 3.09, 3.22, 3.23, 3.25
Aoyama?: 3.21, 3.24
Sakuraba?: 2.04, 2.09, 2.23, 2.24, 3.06, 3.10, 3.16, 3.17, 3.19, 4.04
Sakuraba: rest

The live piano/better synth this time makes Sakuraba stand out more than the midi-ish Aoyama I think.
(also what's the deal with those awful dungeon loops?)


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US sound test + stuff:
- Title Music / システム
Tales of Graces / Tales of Graces

- Field Music / フィールド
A Dream in Every Step / 歩みと同じ数の夢
Hot Sands, Burning Haze / 熱砂と陽炎を幾度と
Frozen Soles / 凍えた踵
Endless Silence / 果て無き静寂
Swept by the Sea Breeze / 潮風に吹かれて

- Town Music /
Home of the Frolicking Wind / 風の舞う街
Pomp and Majesty / 王都~威風堂々~
Lakefront Bustle / 湖畔の賑わい
Trade in Souls and Sand / 人と物と砂の交じり合う岸壁
The Crux of Cryas / 魔法科学の深遠
Dance of Fountains / 統水の舞踏
Behold the Crimson Sky / 見よ!天空は紅蓮
A City Swept Away / 流れついた町
The Monochrome Fortress / 百黒の城塞
Chasing a Distant Memory / 遥かなる記憶の果て
A Rest for the Weary Feet / 歩みを止めて眠りについて
Cats at Play / みんなあそぶネコ!
Adventure on the Shore / 渚のアバンチュール
From the Rampart Walls / 城壁の上から [unused?]
Beckoned to the Sea / 船旅への誘い
Answering the Ocean's Call / 魅惑の海原へ
To the Sea of Dancing Snow / 雪に舞う海へ
The Bozz's Holiday Log / かめにん部長の休息日誌

- Dungeon Music /
Beyond the Sunlit Path / 木漏れ日の先に
Prostrate in the Dark / 闇に臥す
Vanished Amidst the Trees / 樹々彼方に消えた村
Past the Droplets / 雫の向こうに
Not Hither But Thither / 遥けき彼方よりこなたへ
Stringhold's Pulse / 要塞の息吹
Where Malice Festers / 悪意の滞留する館
Cavern of the Beast / 巨獣の岩窟
The Parched Earth Sighs / 溜息ひとつ大地は渇き
Forbidden Legacy / 禁忌の遺産
Crevice of Winter's Onset / 冬が始まったクレバス
Born Beyond These Doors / この扉の奥で生まれたもの
Shatter the Steel / その鋼を砕け!
Muddied Coffers / 混濁ひきこもる櫃
Sword That Splits the Earth / 大地をつらぬきし剣
Conqueror's Cage / 覇王の籠
Terminus of Destruction / 滅びの終着 [ToGf]
Recursion of Life / 生命回帰 [ToGf]

- Battle Music /
Victorious Cheer / 凱歌をあげろ!
Requiem for the Fallen / 朽ち果ての鎮魂歌
Never Let Go / 力いっぱい握り締めて
Whet the Sheath / 抜刀!研ぎ澄ませ
Brawl in the Blazing Heat / 灼熱の乱闘
Blast of the Frigid Wind / 寒風一閃!
Emergence at Eternity's End / 悠久の果てに現れたもの
Restless Sword / 焦燥の剣
What Blocks the Way / 立ち塞がるもの
Perplexing Blade / 惑う剣
Rise to the Challenge / 決闘!奮い立たせて
The Promised Battle / 約束された闘い
Dance of Madness / 狂乱舞踏
Destiny's Wail / 命の叫び
Evangelist of Souls / 魂の伝道者
Epic Release / 解き放て! [ToGf]
Fearsome Essence / 畏怖すべき存在 [ToGf]
Dance Fantasia / 夢幻乱舞 [ToGf]
All on the Line / 全てを賭して [ToGf]
Worthy Guardian / 清廉なる守護者 [ToGf]

- Event Music
Sophie / ソフィ
Fresh Air / 清涼な空気
Children's Adventure / 子どもたちの冒険
Dividing Rift / 心離れて
Impending Crisis / 迫り来る危機
The Pact / 誓い
Turbulence / 不穏
Crossed Stars / 凶星
Not Getting Through / 届かない想い
Reminiscence / 追憶
Strife / 争い
Timely Return / 到来!
Pascal's Theme / パスカルのテーマ
Pursuit of Knowledge / 英知を求めて
The Path to Victory / 勝利への導
The Mad King's Onslaught / 狂王の襲来
Warm Thoughts / 暖かな想い
Lambda / Lambda
Corrosion / 侵食するもの
Twisted Smile / 歪な微笑み
The Curtain Rises / 舞台の幕開け
Beating as One / 繋がる想い
The Heavens Tremble / 震天
Toward Tomorrow / 明日へ
Dancing in the Wind / 風に舞って
Overcome It! / 乗り越えろ!
Memories of the End / 終わりの記憶
Defender of Life / 命の守り人 [ToGf]
Connected Destinies / 繋ぐ命、見守る命 [ToGf]
Speak Your Mind / 声を届けて [ToGf]
The Days to Come / これからの日々 [ToGf]

- Other Music / その他
Tales Revisited / テイルズ詠み会始

---

FMV
1 Tales of Graces
2 Meeting in the Meadow
3 Childhood's End
4 The Rightful King
5 Awakening
6 Primal Forces
7 Metamophosis
8 T-Minus One
9 Homecoming
10 Apart at the Seams
11 Blossomgale
12 White Wishes
13 Sophie's Tale
14 Lineage and Legacies [bgm: The Days to Come]

---
- DLC Music (not in sound test)
THEME OF BATTLE (Arrange) [TOD2] / Kyle costume
Progress toward the end [TODr] / Rutee costume
Lion -irony of fate- [TODr] / Judas costume
Victory! [TODr] / Kyle/Rutee/Judas costume victory
暗い野望を切り裂く [TOV] / Yuri costume
決着の刻 [TOV] / Patty costume
この一戦に賭けて [TOV] / Rita costume
光と影に彩られて [TOV] / Raven costume
火花散らして [TOV] / Flynn costume
勝利の叫び [TOV] / Patty/Rita/Raven costume victory
完全無欠の勝利! [TOV] / Yuri/Flynn costume victory
The edge of a decision [TOA] / Anise costume
Awkard justice [TOA] / Natalia costume
Victory! [TOA] / Anise/Natalia costume victory
Beat the angel (Arrange) [TOS] / Zelos costume
Won the battle (Arrange?) [TOS] / Zelos costume victory
Lion -fate of a fencer- (Arrange) [TODr] / Lion costume
(Lion Arrange) / Lion costume victory
ALEA JACTA EST (Arrange) / Harold costume
FESTINA LENTE (Arrange) / Harold costume victory
(.hack//Link battle) / Haseo costume
(.hack//Link results) / Haseo costume victory
idolmaster: ALIVE (offvocal) アイマスコス愛 / Pascal
idolmaster: プリコグ (offvocal) 絵理 / Sophie
idolmaster: DazzlingWorld (offvocal) 涼 / Cheria
idolmaster: アイマスDSレッスン時BGM / アイマスコス戦闘時
idolmaster: アイマスDSオーディション時BGM
idolmaster: HELLO!! (アイマスDSメインテーマ) アレンジ / アイマスコス勝利時

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Old Jul 16, 2012, 12:00 PM
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I have these noted as being by Shinji Tamura: Disk 1: 17, 19, 20, Disk 2: 2, 11, 24, 27, Disk 3: 1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10, 17, 19, 21, 22, 23, 25.

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also what's the deal with those awful dungeon loops?
You mean 1-20 "Lying in the Darkness"? Yeah, I'd like to know the story behind that one as well. Can't imagine the thought process, like the sound director demands a lazy 6 second loop less complex than any jingle, composer "composes" three notes, then whoever decides the track lengths for the CD goes "hell yeah, I'll loop that one for over 20 times". x_X
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Old Jul 16, 2012, 12:48 PM
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1.20 is a new low, but 2.27 is no slouch either. 3.07 and 3.09 are more layered but still loop the same notes again and again. Dear lord.
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Old Mar 24, 2015, 12:59 PM
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Good job picking out the additional tracks for Tamura I'm also unsure about.

For 3-17 and especially 3-19 the drums (rhythm, repetition and particular sound design) are imo a give away that they are by Tamura.

Some short notes re the remaining tracks:
1-03 bongo and latter symphonic peak tell me it's a classic Sakuraba calm intro area piece. 1-18 has an orchestral build up that's typical to Sakuraba and can't imagine Tamura doing. 1-12 is a close call, very Tamura-esque, but the same strings led me to conclude it's by Sakuraba in my case. ^^
2-12 is a lovely piece, 3/4 signature tracks imo make the composer even harder to tell apart, style with those drums points to Tamura, quality otherwise more to Sakuraba. 2-23 especially the drum play is too varied for this to be by Tamura imo, sounds like a track for a Camelot game (Golden Sun or Mario Golf).
3-24 the pronounced quirky bass is something Sakuraba likes to use in his silly tracks, though he usually uses an analog synth sound for it.
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1-03 sound like a typical mellow Sakuraba track for me (especially the use of flute and harp arpeggios). Compare this to his work on other RPGs like Eternal Sonata, Tales of the Abyss, etc.
1-12 is a bit more difficult, indeed. A first, it may sound like him, but when you listen to it carefully, it's more Tamura (too repetitive, and the strings sound too simple for a Sakuraba track, at least for me). It's basically the same like 1-19, which has Sakuraba's orchestral samples, but the structure is way too simple for him.
1-18 I think is Sakuraba, it sounds more like his works, even if it's short.
2-12 is one of my favorite town themes, very whimsical and delightful. And like 1-12 another difficult task... but I guess it's another Tamura track? Especially with Graces you'll notice how he evolved and refined his skills within the years.
For 2-23 I share the same opinion as Guitarist.
3-17 sounds like one of Sakuraba's more experimental tracks for me. The drums, synth (especially from the one minute mark, typical). But I'm not totally sure...
3-19 shares some similarities with 3-25 in terms of synth and style. The former I'm not totally sure, it sounds more like Sakuraba, but the latter is definitely Tamura, as Guitarist guessed. I would choose Sakuraba for 3-17 and 3-19.
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1.12 1.19 2.12 3.17 3.19, while I agree they are a bit un-Sakuraba, I'm having trouble accepting they are Tamura's.

Considering that:
- this one has some of his worst tracks (=he isn't even trying anymore)
- I can't remember he ever composing orchestral stuff
- still uses fairly synthy synths

I can't think how he could come up with decent orchestral tracks or synth 'modulation' in 3.19.
I'm starting to think Hiroshi Tamura threw in a bunch of songs while nobody looked.
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