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Scan-quality upgrade?
So, as some of the people idling / talking on IRC-channel noticed that I today went through my collection in here and checked all the albums that require scans. And the aftermath of that was around 93 entries do need full scans (which I will be supplying in the coming weeks/months).
But anyways, there was 83 albums where there were sets of scans, but I didn't much check if they should be upgraded to better ones ('samples' of scans I do on these albums: Ys Premium Music CD Box in Felghana, The Bouncer Original Soundtrack, NICE LIFE AS WIFE and Sigma Harmonics Original Soundtrack). And here's the list of albums I came up which could need scan upgrade: http://vgmdb.net/album/1557 2197 http://vgmdb.net/album/1180 BATTLE GEAR III - The Edge http://vgmdb.net/album/360 Biohazard Outbreak Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/926 Breath of Fire Original Soundtrack Special Box http://vgmdb.net/album/712 Breath of Fire V Dragon Quarter Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/255 Capcom Music Generation Family Computer Soundtracks Rockman 1~6 http://vgmdb.net/album/256 Capcom Music Generation Rockman X1~6 http://vgmdb.net/album/604 Chaos Legion Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/5684 Chocobo's Mysterious Dungeon: Labyrinth of Forgotten Time Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/5 CREID Yasunori Mitsuda & Millennial Fair http://vgmdb.net/album/6009 Devil May Cry 4 Special Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/3061 Estpolis - Game Sound Legend Consumer Series Biography Estpolis Sound Track http://vgmdb.net/album/1857 Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/5681 Final Fantasy IV Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/17 Final Fantasy Tactics Advance Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/324 Final Fantasy Vocal Collections II "Love Will Grow" http://vgmdb.net/album/297 Final Fantasy XI Chains of Promathia Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/184 Final Fantasy XI Original Soundtrack (Limited Edition) http://vgmdb.net/album/304 Front Mission 5: Scars of the War Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/369 Front Mission Online Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/2803 Front Mission Original Sound Version http://vgmdb.net/album/914 Genso Suikoden Music Collection Produced by Kentaro Haneda http://vgmdb.net/album/428 Grandia II ~Deus~ http://vgmdb.net/album/426 Grandia II ~Povo~ http://vgmdb.net/album/1167 Guilty Gear X Heavy Rock Tracks ~ The Original Soundtrack of Dreamcast http://vgmdb.net/album/4602 Gyakuten Saiban 4 Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/2675 Hako no Niwa http://vgmdb.net/album/190 HALO Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/5026 Hanjuku Hero Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/163 Hanjuku Hero VS 3D Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/2671 Hayarigami Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/290 Jet Set Radio Future Original Sound Tracks http://vgmdb.net/album/5059 Kingdom Hearts Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/2940 Konami Game Music Remix Series Vol.1 Dracula X Remixies http://vgmdb.net/album/2410 Legaia Duel Saga Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/196 LIVE A LIVE Original Sound Version http://vgmdb.net/album/4002 Makai Senki Disgaea Makai Arrange Collection ~Dark label~ http://vgmdb.net/album/2489 Medal of Honor: Frontline Original Soundtrack Recording http://vgmdb.net/album/8021 Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/7633 Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriots Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/10822 Metal Gear Solid Original Game Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/3709 More Than Mario http://vgmdb.net/album/10425 Naruto Shippuuden Naltimate Accel Best Sound http://vgmdb.net/album/939 Nobunaga's Ambition Online ~Chapter of Hiryu~ Complete Sound Track http://vgmdb.net/album/3998 Radirgy Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/3176 Rhapsodia Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/2174 Rockman Battle & Chase http://vgmdb.net/album/4385 Salamander ~Again~ http://vgmdb.net/album/4240 SHADOW HEARTS Original Soundtracks plus1 http://vgmdb.net/album/1584 Shin Megami Tensei III NOCTURNE Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/1081 SILENT HILL 4 -THE ROOM- ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACKS http://vgmdb.net/album/1159 The OneUps Volume 1 http://vgmdb.net/album/8716 The OneUps Volume 2 http://vgmdb.net/album/1492 The Very Best of SEGA http://vgmdb.net/album/1261 Valkyrie Profile 2 -Silmeria- Arrange Album http://vgmdb.net/album/1259 Valkyrie Profile 2 -Silmeria- Original Soundtrack Vol.1 Alicia Side http://vgmdb.net/album/1260 Valkyrie Profile 2 -Silmeria- Original Soundtrack Vol.2 Silmeria Side http://vgmdb.net/album/1262 Valkyrie Profile 2 -Silmeria- Voice Mix Album http://vgmdb.net/album/96 Wander and the Colossus ~Roar of the Earth~ Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/1067 Wild Arms Advanced 3rd Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/3685 Wild Arms Complete Tracks http://vgmdb.net/album/1117 Wild Arms Music the Best -feeling wind- http://vgmdb.net/album/1097 Wild Arms Music the Best -rocking heart- http://vgmdb.net/album/4222 Wild Arms the Vth Vanguard Original Score Vol.1 http://vgmdb.net/album/3691 Wild Arms the Vth Vanguard - Justice to Believe http://vgmdb.net/album/48 Xenogears Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/1799 Xenosaga Episode I So, to help my workload, I ask you members, to check atleast some of those albums and decide if they need or not, and post in here. And yes, I seem to be losing some sanity lately, because of starting stuff like this. Also thanks to lgb already checking few albums off Last edited by razakin; Feb 23, 2010 at 06:30 AM. Reason: CLeared off some albums |
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The upgrades requested here seem more like "perfectionist" jobs than something of palpable importance. Not to say that I'm arguing against the upgrades though; I enjoy perfection as much as you do.
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Some of the first list are mine, and I at least think they are pretty good scans with accurate colours (which isn't always the case, as I learned) and stuff. Of course they are not perfect, but is there such thing?
And man, that FF12 Limited Edition was a pain to scan as I recall. That's easily the worst of the lot from me. The booklet on that one doesn't really render itself very well for regular scanners, so the inner edges of most (all?) of the booklet pages are blurry. So by all means, improve on that one if you can.
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I have my own scans of FFXII and I'll tell ya Mika, your scans are even better than mine were. I don't see how you could get much better.
Also, that SaGa Frontier 2 OST ... not sure if those are my scans (submitted by someone else) or if they are my own scans. In any case, I can't see what needs improvement. If you knew about the type of paper that was printed on, you'd settle for what you have. I'm trying to see what's wrong with them... |
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Mika and Ramza, I'm sorry if you two got the feeling that I'm saying that there's something wrong on your scans (when there's clearly nothing wrong). That was not the purpose of this thread, it was more like to help me to check if those albums listed do need any 'major' upgrading on the scan-section.
Probably should go through that list now that I have bit more time to waste and remove albums like FF XII and Saga Frontier 2, where I can't get better scans unless I start damaging the booklets for example (atleast on FF XII, big booklets are pain in the ass to scan). Also, there's stuff like Vagrant Story OST where the scans are bit 'grainy' (if that's the correct word), but still it's easy to see the stuff on it, and stuff like that probably won't be scanned again by me. Thankfully Cypher has done already some checking and descriptions what to do, which does help a lot. Though, this list still is on a backburner after I'll manage to finish up scanning the stuff I own which doesn't even have scans on here. |
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Oh, I didn't get the impression at all, my post was mainly just to "eliminate" the stuff I've done so you don't need to check. I remember scanning most of my collection, but skipped a bunch that appeared to have complete set of scans.
Interesting that you should mention Vagrant Story, I was just looking at my scans of the remaster reprint version thing and they are a little grainy as well. If I remember right I was getting too dark scans, and tried to adjust accordingly, but ended up introducing some noise in there. Maybe the colour combo of black and red is a difficult thing for cheaper scanners to master. Or something. I obviously know what the hell I'm talking about here.
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I'm a total scan beginner and want other members to share know-how...
Wouldn't it be better to keep the scan size smaller so that dust and moiré become less noticeable? I feel a 600 dpi scan provides too much needless detail even if we can zoom out it later by scrolling the mouse, and the thumbnail as a default cover sometimes looks pretty bad. Also, does anybody trim particles of dirt on the black background, or delete white blank space on the verge which I guess is the reflection of the scanner bed cover (such as this)? |
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I don't see what you mean about the reflection, but I do see some smudges above the "esp". I've never done any post-scan cleanup, but I do clean the scanning surface with some glass cleaner and a soft cloth when I start to notice markings.
I agree about 600 dpi. We really don't need anything above 300 to document the scans at a readable letter. Anything above that will just catch fine details of the paper and imperfections in the printing process. |
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I wanted to point out the white space at the inferior border. I don't know what causes this, but not infrequently can it be also found in other members' scans.
I'd appreciate some guidelines for better scanning as I really suck at this. After adding several inclined disc scans, I finally realized I must prepare a CD tray to keep discs upright. |
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Isn't those borders just case of lazy cropping? Also, if you're using Photoshop to edit scans, use Ruler-tool (hk: Ctrl-I twice at normal settings) and draw line from example the bottom of the slanted scan (for example, if booklet scan is bit slanted, just draw the line with ruler-tool one end to another end), then just Image -> Rotate Canvas -> Arbitrary. It should have same angle amount as Ruler-tool did gave. Which rotates the picture amount of the angle given. Should straighten things up. (Thanks for blah telling me that tool ages ago on irc)
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Lazy as I am, I'd want to prevent it from happening, since it discourages me to submit covers actively if I have to take care of every scan. I only use Paint for cropping, but perhaps there can be some awesome free software available.
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I use xnview to crop.
If it were a repeatable problem (like the exact number of pixels of extra white in each scan is always the same), then I'd write a Python script that called into Gimp or something, so that I could automate the process. |
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If you're using a *nix OS with GNOME desktop manager then F-Spot should do it, even though it's still considered a 'photo management software'. However it should support at least rotation, cropping and some more 'trivial' functions. While I was still using Windows I had XnView installed, I'm pretty sure it also supports a limited set of edition functions. And from what I heard Paint.NET should be quite good. |
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Thanks for nice recommendations. I'll manually crop at least the booklet front.
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IrfanView is a free image viewer with a simple way to crop, but it's also an image viewer, but free to use.
At least I crop my images, except the Romancing SaGa scans I added. I didn't when I first scanned them and just didn't feel like it when I came around to adding them. Also it seems like the list is outdated for scans to be 'upgraded' slightly. I know I added the Grandia Povo & Deus scans, except I didn't replace the cover, but it was probably fine to leave it since the edit was oct '09 and I added them pretty recently. I think the quality is fine, too. Maybe someone should update the list as I don't mind scanning to add if I have the album sometimes (though it's just lazy for me not to go through it myself to see what could be added). |
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Well the list of scans that needs an upgrade is quite huge, so a list is nearly impossible to make.
Our priority is to fill unscanned entries. (generally when there is only the Front cover or Case Front/Case Back only or no cover at all) Then, we need to complete sets with missing scans (often obis, registration cards, goodies) Then, upgrade quality. |
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Here's my little scan request list. [LINER NOTES ONLY] http://vgmdb.net/album/1209 SRCL-3120: X-Men: Children of the Atom Arcade Gametrack http://vgmdb.net/album/1796 VICL-2176: X-Men vs. Street Fighter http://vgmdb.net/album/2491 CPCA-1005: Marvel VS. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes Original Soundtrack http://vgmdb.net/album/2492 FSCA-10017: Marvel Super Heroes VS. Street Fighter Original Sound Track & Arrange http://vgmdb.net/album/2990 SRCL-2822: Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers Arcade Gametrack http://vgmdb.net/album/4340 SRCL-3451: Rockman: The Power Battle Arcade Gametrack |
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