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so when an album is limited to 10000, that isn't Limited Edition?
Last edited by Phonograph; Feb 10, 2011 at 04:24 PM. |
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It's valid to mark it as 'limited edition'. Other albums like the Evangelion S² Works were handled the same way.
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We select "Limited Edition" not when that album is limited run, but when there is a confirmed alternative printing (e.g. if a regular edition is published).
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sorry I don't understand that logic
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Oh, in this case I guess it's valid to remove the "limited edition" for all the albums in the database that are marked as such even though there is no regular version of them, right?
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This is something about which I once raised a discussion, and as far as I know, we've been basically consistent in submitting this type of releases, but sorry if there might be more isolated "Limited Edition" albums than I thought and I should also have explained my rationale before my edit like I did.
I think the most important thing is to uniform submissions, so I for one think the tags should be removed, but perhaps we should establish a consensus before if some members still disagree with this (depending on that, we rather add the Limited Edition tags to many limited run albums). |
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it could be a problem for albums like bleach best of albums etc.
because it's clearly limited editions without regular editions EDIT: I also noticed some albums which can't enter in that Limited Edition category, Limited but without the Edition part (sorry I noticed an album some days ago, don't remember in order to illustrate what I mean) Last edited by Phonograph; Feb 10, 2011 at 05:28 PM. |
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Also, some record companies tend to use the "Limited Edition (限定盤)" term to refer to "Limited Run (限定生産盤)", and I don't think it's logical to select "Limited Edition" just because of their somewhat misleading label. This album is also limited run, but I don't think it should be called as such. Again, I'm sorry if you never heard about this policy before, and we're not so consistent as I expected. I guess we should resume the discussion in the feature. |
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Albums with limited runs shouldn't be marked as limited edition (key word being "edition"), since that's mostly used to differentiate them from regular editions.
What we need is a new field (print run, perhaps) to denote the number of copies produced. |
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because, afaik, when it's limited run it's always labelled 限定生産盤 (maybe not clearly on albums but certainly on obi and definitely in shops) Last edited by Phonograph; Feb 10, 2011 at 07:35 PM. |
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I wanted to ask about that, but a field you sure can't mistake with "Limited Edition"
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everywhere else? sorry but neowing, joshinweb, jbook, getchu, geo-online, etc have [10000セット限定生産] on their page (use those keywords in google 決戦CD匣 セット限定生産 to check) rakuten mustn't have that one iirc Quote:
because it guides you if you're unsure about something (for limited edition etc., I must say I've never really bothered myself reading about it, maybe because, till now, I was using it as I felt -if the release has 限定, Limited Edition is like the most convenient category to use) and I forgot to specify but if people (and especially me ) must start searching for specific topics about "how to", it's maybe faster to give up (sort of laziness, I guess) |
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I guess we need to do a better job of transferring knowledge from the threads into the guidelines. Currently, the guide for Limited Edition says:
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actually, I have an idea (draft)
why not directly putting the japanese words in the guideline, that'd be simpler if the album has: 初回生産限定盤 -> nothing 初回限定盤 -> "Limited Edition" 限定版 -> "Limited Edition" correct? or you put the japanese words in the selection, and the script interprets it Last edited by Phonograph; Feb 12, 2011 at 02:11 PM. |
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As I undertand, the problem is none of these words are used consistently, so we can't really use them directly.
This is how I see it (somebody correct mistakes please). First about "editions" / 限定版. - An album is a 'regular edition' by default. - If, along a 'regular edition', a special pack exists (album + dvds, figures, different case, etc) that's a 'limited edition' (compared with the normal one) -> marked as "Limited Edition" here. - If only the 'pack' version exists, it's really the 'only edition' (not marked here, even if sites call it 限定版) Then we have "limited" runs / 限定生産: - Many albums are 'limited' by default in that there are few copies/sold for a limited time (ex.- promos, NMH2 with <1000 copies). We don't call them "limited edition" (we know promos are limited anyway). - Some albums are labelled "limited edition/限定版/初回生産限定盤/etc", but they are just "limited". Remember this can be just a marketing trick. (this album has a "limited run" of 10000, but doesn't have several "editions", so it's not marked as "limited edition") A solution to record the second case would be a field with the print run, Gigablah proposed. Maybe that makes it clearer (though even I get this wrong and there still are inconsistencies in the db). |
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