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Old Sep 3, 2013, 04:49 PM
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As per GameChops description in their Bandcamp page:

"GameChops is a record label dedicated to electronic video game remixes. All tracks contained on this site are licensed mechanically for the compositions contained within."

So, would this effectively make all their current releases "commercial" instead of "doujin/fanmade"?

EDIT: I just realized I could have posted this in the GameChops page... No matter, though, point still stands.

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Old Sep 3, 2013, 06:02 PM
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Our current policy is to classify fan arrangement albums that are mechanically licensed as Commercial, but I strongly disagree with that because licensing doesn't make the album not a fan production. The professed point of the Doujin/Indie classification was to let people filter out fan arrangement albums, so why are we poking holes in that?

I feel that, if we care about whether or not an album is licensed, we should have a field specifically about that and not co-opt the Publish Format. The classification of Doujin/Indie is already semantically incorrect because we exclude doujin-published original soundtracks, and excluding licensed albums from that too creates a categorization of albums that I can't imagine anyone would actually find useful (unlicensed fan arrangement albums + original albums by doujin artists we don't consider "video game composers").
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Old Sep 3, 2013, 08:31 PM
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I was just pointing that in particular. Personally, I agree with you: licensed or not, it should be always marked as "Doujin/Indie". Perhaps adding if it's licensed or not in parenthesis next to it?
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Old Sep 5, 2013, 07:13 AM
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Guys, what's up with this Arrangement/Remix back and forth thing you have going in this and other entries?
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Old Sep 5, 2013, 08:25 AM
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I am simply trying to classify properly, as this is a remix, but Myrkul keeps rejecting it because he doesn't agree (it's very confusing, according to him).
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Old Sep 5, 2013, 12:48 PM
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To be clear, I don't know what is contained on these albums, but the remix classification is used for a specific type of arrangement that samples the original sound and plays it back modified. If that's what is going on here, then remix could be used.
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Old Sep 5, 2013, 04:19 PM
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I don't believe this release uses any samples -- just original chip-y arrangements. If I'm mistaken, then it should probably be categorized under both "remix" and "arrangement."

Regarding the whole commercial vs. indie/doujin classification conundrum: is the purpose of the categorization to syntactically separate cover/remix albums from original soundtracks, or to establish legality (licensed vs. unlicensed covers/remixes)?

If we want to establish how legal a non-original album is, Musicbrainz's release documentation has a neat summary: an "official" (commercial) release is any release officially sanctioned by the artist and/or their record company. That goes in hand with the current description on the album edit pages here, A commercial album released by the official rights holder. -- licensed remix albums have been released by rights holders.

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Old Sep 6, 2013, 12:52 AM
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I don't believe this release uses any samples -- just original chip-y arrangements. If I'm mistaken, then it should probably be categorized under both "remix" and "arrangement."
Have you listened to it? It's not just "chip-y" sounds.

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Regarding the whole commercial vs. indie/doujin classification conundrum: is the purpose of the categorization to syntactically separate cover/remix albums from original soundtracks, or to establish legality (licensed vs. unlicensed covers/remixes)?

If we want to establish how legal a non-original album is, Musicbrainz's release documentation has a neat summary: an "official" (commercial) release is any release officially sanctioned by the artist and/or their record company. That goes in hand with the current description on the album edit pages here, A commercial album released by the official rights holder. -- licensed remix albums have been released by rights holders.

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This is being discussed over here. Check it out and voice your thoughts.
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Old Sep 6, 2013, 07:02 AM
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I am agree with GermanSeabass, and that's why i rejected your "Remix" change. They are arrangements...

Because they do not reuse/sample ORIGINAL stuff. I listened to the album and the "chip-y" sound is not the original sound from the Nintendo Game Boy.
So it's arrangement, not remix.
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Old Sep 6, 2013, 09:30 AM
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Is this some kind of test or something? Like, am I being hazed?

Or is this a joke perhaps? Or are you being seriously serious?

I don't know what you were listening to (or if you even did), but this does reuse and sample the original music from the game, including other games in the series, and uses sampled beats and grooves, as well as sounds from Mario Paint.

It's a remix.
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Old Sep 6, 2013, 01:09 PM
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... yeah, I'm listening to the preview track and it's definitely sampling stuff from the original games.
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