SRCL-2828: ROCKMAN X ALPH-LYLA with TOSHIAKI OHTSUBO

[Secret Squirrel]

There's some circular editing going on with the track times (dma & Metroid), so I think we need to discuss how these times are being measured.

[Metroid]

Originally Posted by Secret Squirrel

There's some circular editing going on with the track times (dma & Metroid), so I think we need to discuss how these times are being measured.

I'm positive dma edited it right, hadn't had time to get into this album yet after freedb implementation. If I edited before the freedb implementation then dis-consider it. I used to cut gaps of some albums, not sure which albums. I'm sure I did not edit tracktimes of more than 10 albums before freedb implementation, Statistics and edit tracking would help in this case.

Well anyway I fixed tracktimes of some, others will be fixed within time. I would eventually come back on this one too.

The tracktimes are measured as individual tracks with gaps or without gaps which is dependent of how the CD was recorded.

A small guide to newcomers would help this circular editing if that comes to happen again, 99% of albums I corrected tracktimes do not need to re-edit it. Again Statistics and edit tracking would help in this and other cases that might appear. I'm all for accuraterip log submission to help preventing this circular editing in the future.

[Secret Squirrel]

We do have edit histories, though they are kind of hard to find. If you click on the little arrow by the Last Edited by, you get this:

http://vgmdb.net/db/albums-history.php?id=1685

Anyway, August must have been before you were using the freedb then. Thanks for confirming the latest edits by dma.

[Metroid]

Thanks for the link now I know how to look the history of an album.

Hold on. I'm not sure if dma's edits are right after had seeing the edit history, like I said I use to cut gaps off not adding gaps. I will confirm tomorrow if the edits are right.

[dma]

The latest edit i made (few days ago) is based the actual original CD times.
It wasn't returned on freedb request before, and is after the edit.

[Metroid]

Updated it, as I recall when I ripped this CD I had set up to correct gaps, the difference was visible with 2 seconds almost each track, after the update I did now, looks like both ways will get the info from freedb. Zorbfish set up a 3 seconds each track so this will be just fine.

The TOC as the CD media was recorded.

TOC of the extracted CD

     Track |   Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector 
    ---------------------------------------------------------
        1  |  0:00.00 |  5:50.15 |         0    |    26264   
        2  |  5:50.15 |  3:18.30 |     26265    |    41144   
        3  |  9:08.45 |  4:27.27 |     41145    |    61196   
        4  | 13:35.72 |  5:41.48 |     61197    |    86819   
        5  | 19:17.45 |  4:19.25 |     86820    |   106269   
        6  | 23:36.70 |  4:29.50 |    106270    |   126494   
        7  | 28:06.45 |  4:54.62 |    126495    |   148606   
        8  | 33:01.32 |  5:49.13 |    148607    |   174794   
        9  | 38:50.45 |  3:59.72 |    174795    |   192791   
       10  | 42:50.42 |  4:31.28 |    192792    |   213144

Regards,

[Revoc]

Soundtrack includes 'ROCKMAN X' sticker, glossy 30-page booklet filled with production sketches, musician photos.

If someone can upload the scans of this booklet I would appreciate it. I think that "Masakiro Sugasaka" is a typo of Masahiko Sugasaka, since both played trumpet.

EDIT: Wow, thanks for the scans, Splashman.

[Revoc]

I've edited Masakiro to Masahiko based on this site:
http://circled6.net/x/cd/alph_lyla.htm

[DarioEMeloD]

According to this (as well as in this entry), the composers are Setsuo Yamamoto, Makoto Tomozawa, Yuki Iwai, Yuko Takehara, and Toshihiko Horiyama.

If none of the before mentioned composer are/were part of Alph Lyla (based on this), why aren't they credited in this album, but Alph Lyla instead? Is it explained in the liner notes? =P

Edit:
http://www.themmnetwork.com/wiki/ind...9#Game_Credits
Setsuo > Setsuo Yamamoto
Tomozou > Makoto Tomozawa
Sato > Yuki Iwai (?)
Yuko > Yuko Takehara
Kirry > Toshihiko Horiyama (?)

[Raizen1984]

Capcom Alpha Lyra is similar to Konami Kukeiha Club, in that it's just what the companies called their sound teams. It can be confusing because Alpha Lyra is also Capcom's in-house band (which also included a few sound team members). The composers for Rockman X are confirmed via the booklet in the Rockman X1-6 set.

[Secret Squirrel]

I thought Toshihiko Horiyama was confirmed as a composer. Is there some new info for his removal?

[CHz]

We finally got a breakdown for MMX and Horiyama only wrote the password theme, so the removal's good.

[Secret Squirrel]

Ok, thanks, CHz.

[Blitz Lunar]

I abandoned a post here a few days ago where I was listing the original composers for each song. But since I couldn't identify the source for the last track, and the rest are utterly transformed in any case, I guess it isn't that important!

[XISMZERO]

I've been listening to this album for close to 11 years now and I still can't quite make out what "Epilogue-The Transient Silence ~ENDING STAGE~" is supposed to be an arrange of. I'm guessing it's a fusion of the Cast and Staff Roll but it's been heavily rearranged I can't trace it back to anything.

[Jormungand]

Originally Posted by XISMZERO

I've been listening to this album for close to 11 years now and I still can't quite make out what "Epilogue-The Transient Silence ~ENDING STAGE~" is supposed to be an arrange of. I'm guessing it's a fusion of the Cast and Staff Roll but it's been heavily rearranged I can't trace it back to anything.

It's a remix of exactly what it says. On the X1-6 collection it's called "ENDING", track 1.32 (and 1.64).

[Jodo Kast]

Originally Posted by XISMZERO

I've been listening to this album for close to 11 years now and I still can't quite make out what "Epilogue-The Transient Silence ~ENDING STAGE~" is supposed to be an arrange of. I'm guessing it's a fusion of the Cast and Staff Roll but it's been heavily rearranged I can't trace it back to anything.

You didn't recognize the Snatcher song from Kukeiha Club and now this? Ever been to an otologist?

[Blitz Lunar]

Originally Posted by Jormungand

It's a remix of exactly what it says. On the X1-6 collection it's called "ENDING", track 1.32 (and 1.64).

In that case, composers for the source songs:

01 Setsuo Yamamoto
02 Setsuo Yamamoto
03 Yuko Takehara
04 Yuki Iwai
05 Setsuo Yamamoto
06 Setsuo Yamamoto
07 Makoto Tomozawa
08 Setsuo Yamamoto
09 Setsuo Yamamoto
10 Setsuo Yamamoto

[XISMZERO]

Originally Posted by Jodo Kast

You didn't recognize the Snatcher song from Kukeiha Club and now this? Ever been to an otologist?

You got me there, I never picked up on the Snatcher cue but I've heard it since it's been mentioned. I suppose I hear it a little compared to the arrange... it's just heavily reimagined on here -- I would say the most distant from the original on the disc.