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Sound teams and in-house bands
I've been thinking about this since the Shinsekai Gakkyoku Zatsugidan/Neo Geo Music Performance Group fixup.
A few game companies have a collective term for their sound staff that's used instead of individual composers for games: Konami Kukeiha Club, etc. Some of these companies also have in-house bands that perform arrangements of their music: Kukeiha Club, etc. I am going to make a list of these for two reasons. The first is that I think it'd just be nice to have, since I don't think there's a list like this anywhere else. The second will be presented in a minute.
The important bits are Taito and Data East (and Capcom, assuming those names are currect, because I'm not 100% on them): the sound teams and bands have the same name. I think this distinction should be annotated somehow, because they are two fundamentally different entities: a collective composition group and a performance group with mostly members from the composition group (as well as members who aren't). However, having two groups with the same names and very similar members could lead to big time confusion. Here's my proposal, using Zuntata as an example:
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Well, I think you're definitely right that we need to differentiate between the composition team and the performance group, particularly in those cases where they have the same name (Zuntata etc.) I'm not sure I want to see a (composition) or (performance) tag after their names when they are listed on an album though, because it seems a little disruptive. However, I think the distinction is definitely needed when they artists are being linked.
Does Ambassadors of Funk featuring M.C. Mario count as Nintendo's in-house band? I can't say I know much about them. |
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A problem with that is that the artist page will look ugly, because each album will have "(as Zuntata)" after it. That could be solved by making both artist entries "Zuntata," but then it won't be immediately obvious why there are two Zuntata entries, both while linking to them and just viewing them on their own. Quote:
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Composition takes precedence to performance, so have two entries as such:
(Composition group) Display Name: Zuntata Last Name: Zuntata (Performance group) Display Name: Zuntata (performance) Last Name: Zuntata I'm going to edit the artist profile pages such that aliases that match the combination of Last Name + First Name (which may be different from the display name) will be dropped from the alias list. So you can have "Zuntata" as an alias for Zuntata (performance) without the redundancy in the alias list and discography credits. This will also be handy for artists with stylized names such as Halko Momoi, since it'll be silly to have "(as Haruko Momoi)" displayed when that's her proper name. |
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There's a related issue that I'd like to comment on.
In some albums (most of them from Falcom) the composer credits aren't completely correct. I'll explain this with an example. In "Ys V Orchestra Version" the composers credited are Satoshi Arai, Mieko Ishikawa, Naoki Kaneda, Atsushi Shirakawa and Masaru Nakajima; which is uncertain or not quite certain. The problem takes root in that we don't know which composer composed which track, that is to say, we don't have a composer breakdown for the original soundtrack (Music from Ys V ~ Kefin, Lost Capital of Sand). And, having account that the orchestra album has ten tracks, for which don't know who composed them, imho, it is to go too far to give composition credits for that album to all these composers (above all because it's very improbable that all of them have at least one original composition between the ten tracks) You don't misunderstand me, I'm in favor of full credits, but in cases as the above-mentioned where we don't know with certainty if all these composers composed something for that concrete album, imho it's better to put just "Falcom Sound Team jdk". In other words, for me, it's incorrect to transfer the composer field from an soundtrack to an arranged album (based in the same soundtrack). For example, in "Ys V Orchestra Version" I'd changed "list of composers" for "Falcom Sound Team jdk" and I'd add a comment in the notes field where I'd mention to all the composers. Other album with the same conflict is Symphony Sorcerian, but there will be some more. |
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If the distinction is made (e.g S.S.T. vs. S.S.T. Band) then that's one thing, but if not, I think the system whereby album-specific "role" distinction is noted in the artist profile is sufficient. And if we were to opt for a distinction I would rather see it being within the existing entries. "Members (sound team)" and "Members (live performance)", something. And further notes could always go in the Biography and Notes fields once they go online. My 2 cents |
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