NTDT-17289~90: SUPER MARIO 3D WORLD ORIGINAL SOUND TRACK

[Jodo Kast]

Originally Posted by Vegeta

It's now up to $160+ on ebay bid only.. pre order... lol

I just picked one up for 3,000 yen on YJA (preorder, of course).

[TheUltimateKoopa]

3000 Yen? That's $28.83

[GoldfishX]

Originally Posted by TheUltimateKoopa

3000 Yen? That's $28.83

Thank god, FINALLY!

That would have been like $40 a few years ago.

[mario54671]

To get a better idea of who contributed what in this soundtrack, I think I have an idea having played the game.

Originally Posted by Guitarist500

Yeah, Kondo wrote the two tracks that play 0:47-1:11, and Minegishi's fingerprints are all over the last track.. just guessing

Actually, the one at 0:47, ("Double Cherry Pass" or "Athletic Theme 1" as people are calling it) I don't think this one was written by Koji Kondo. The Beach theme was, because Kondo stated he wrote it.

Here's the full Beach theme he wrote, it has some SFX, but just for reference now that we have a lot of the music on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nI_Q21WLBw

HOWEVER, there are two Athletic themes in this game. There's a second Athletic theme which actually uses the same melody as the Beach theme.

Here's the Athletic theme I'm talking about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw65iHvG_5I

As you can hear, it's the same theme as the Beach theme, but faster. It gives me a nice Super Mario World/Yoshi's Island vibe. I don't think it's a mere coincidence that Kondo stated he "wrote one of the Athletic and Beach themes," and one of the Athletic themes just HAPPENS to share the same melody as his Beach theme. Clearly he wrote it.

[Guitarist500]

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[_if]

I thought the same thing as mario54671 while playing the game.

I really wasn't expecting this soundtrack to be so good based on the tune they used in the trailers and the first level, which still doesn't sit right with me. The first section of the melody seems like an imitation of Mario music and isn't strong enough to be the theme of a game, but thankfully, despite using an arrangement of it as the menu music, it's really not used much more in the rest of the game. The other music is quite nice and there's a luxurious amount of it. Hope I can get a copy of this album.

[mario54671]

Originally Posted by Guitarist500

Yes, but according to gilvasunner. Shigetoshi Gohara re-arranged Super Mario 3D Land's overworld theme into a new jazzy track. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjAQO5EVt6g

My point being that it is likely that Gohara re-arranged the beach theme for the game since his SM3DL track and this athletic theme share the same spirit and similarity.

That's why I think it's still likely Kondo actually did write the Double Cherry Pass song. However, I'm really hoping for a composer breakdown in this soundtrack.

That's a good point, considering I DID see Shigetoshi Gohara's name in the credits of 3D World.

It'd seem like too much of a coincidence though. Koji Kondo stated that he wrote two tracks, an Athletic theme and a Beach theme, and of the two existing Athletic themes, one of them just happens to share the same melody as his Beach theme.

Let's not forget, Koji Kondo used to ALWAYS do this in his older soundtracks when he was the lead composer. Super Mario World, practically everything is an arrangement of the main theme. Super Mario 64, you've got Bob-omb Battlefield, Snow Mountain, and Slider are all different versions of the same melody. Super Mario Sunshine, Delfino Plaza, Bianco Hills, Ricco Harbor, Gelato Beach, and Staff Roll (all of which he composed) are all different versions of the same melody. It'd be a neat coincidence, then we'd have more Koji Kondo originality within this new soundtrack, but I won't believe it until it's confirmed.

Originally Posted by _if

I thought the same thing as mario54671 while playing the game.

I really wasn't expecting this soundtrack to be so good based on the tune they used in the trailers and the first level, which still doesn't sit right with me. The first section of the melody seems like an imitation of Mario music and isn't strong enough to be the theme of a game, but thankfully, despite using an arrangement of it as the menu music, it's really not used much more in the rest of the game. The other music is quite nice and there's a luxurious amount of it. Hope I can get a copy of this album.

Yeah, the main theme really isn't that good. The second half especially sounds incredibly generic. It sounds like a certain tune from that game Croc. Mario music never really closely resembled music from other games until this game.

I mean, it follows typical Mario fashion. In most Mario games, it's always the secondary themes that turn out to be the most memorable, like SMW and SM64 where you tend to remember the Athletic/Slider themes more than the regular Overworld themes. (Despite the fact that, in both games, the "Athletic" music is just a faster arrangement of the overworld theme)

The difference is, this game's Overworld theme really isn't a strong theme. I find the New Super Mario Bros. theme from the DS that Koji Kondo wrote a stronger theme than this one.

[ᄐv๑–X²]

First wild pictures surfaced today,..

[Gaiden]

Oh boy! Finally we get to see the tracklist, I've been waiting for that

[TheUltimateKoopa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEfZFNY8zb0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPVUNhOEVDA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QKEgq_naoc

This is Disc 1, in 3 parts.

[JTurner]

I just translated the entire track list from Japanese to English using my "Super Mario 3D World" Guide and occasional links to the http://super-mario-brothers.org/super-mario-3d-world/ so that I could decode which track was which. My goal was to make the translation look like a real localized one. I hope I succeeded! (Sorry if there are two identical English tracklists. That was a mistake.)

[TheUltimateKoopa]

I changed the release date to January 20th, because it's been available since then. At least it's definitely available now, and it's nowhere near January 31st yet.

[mario54671]

So the name of the music from Double Cherry Pass is called… Double Cherry Pass! Meanwhile what we've been calling "Athletic Theme 2" is actually just the Athletic theme. So there we go, that's what Koji Kondo wrote. The Seaside and Athletic themes.

[Guitarist500]

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[ᄐv๑–X²]

Originally Posted by TheUltimateKoopa

I changed the release date to January 20th, because it's been available since then. At least it's definitely available now, and it's nowhere near January 31st yet.

I posted the above pictures in the 19th so can't be the 20th. I'm thinking it should be between the 18th or 19th.

[mario54671]

Originally Posted by Guitarist500

Guessing time! (Since there doesn't appear to be a composer breakdown for each tracks)

Toru Minegishi - 1-10(?), 1-17, 1-20, 1-21, 1-23, 1-28, 2-3, 2-9, 2-17
Yasuaki Iwata - 1-15, 1-16, 1-22, 1-27, 2-34

What do you guys think?

Yokota was the lead composer, so he wrote most of the music. 1-10, 1-17, 1-21, and 2-3 sound like tracks written by Mahito Yokota. I'm almost certain Hands On Hall is the work of Toru Minegishi.

I can't say much on Yasuaki Iwata, as I've never seen that name before. Must be a new composer.

[dissident93]

can an staff member remove one of the tracklists?

[TheUltimateKoopa]

Originally Posted by ᄐv๑–X²

I posted the above pictures in the 19th so can't be the 20th. I'm thinking it should be between the 18th or 19th.

Well the idiot who changed it back to January 31st is an idiot. It's available now, so obviously it's not January 31st.

[Efendija]

Originally Posted by JTurner

(Sorry if there are two identical English tracklists. That was a mistake.)

That's fine, removed one of them.

[CHz]

According to the Japanese Wikipedia article for SM3DW, the February 2014 issue of Nintendo Dream (vol. 238) allegedly gives Yasuaki Iwata's name in Japanese as 岩田恭明.

It also says Shigetoshi Gohara did sound programming, which is consistent with how he's credited in other games (even Galaxy 2, where he arranged a tune).

[Phonograph]

Originally Posted by dissident93

can an staff member remove one of the tracklists?

any reason why you didn't do that yourself?
don't tell me you forgot you can

[_if]

Wow, what is up with that track order? The staff roll is the last track on disc 1 and the opening movie is the second on disc 2? Nonsense abounds...

[Guitarist500]

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[dissident93]

Originally Posted by Phonograph

any reason why you didn't do that yourself?
don't tell me you forgot you can

Edit > Delete Tracklist gave me "That function is restricted to VGMdb Staff."

apparently I did it wrong? hmm

[ᄐv๑–X²]

Editors disrespecting each other, wtf is going?

[MiLO]

It's ok Neo Chip, you can display some respect towards me as an example, to show them how it's done.

[GoldfishX]

This soundtrack is serious business.

[Phonograph]

Originally Posted by dissident93

Edit > Delete Tracklist gave me "That function is restricted to VGMdb Staff."

apparently I did it wrong? hmm

actually, I just tried to do it and I got the same message
so no you didn't do it wrong

[Vegeta]

Damn now just need Covers for this.. including booklet pages

[Guitarist500]

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