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I noticed that Amazon.jp page has a listing for a "special edition" release, does anyone know what that's about? Perhaps it comes with a pre-order promo CD like Automata did.
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That doesn't sound like anything too substantial then. I was a little worried that I be missing out on a exclusive promo CD if I ordered it through the NA Square-Enix Store instead of pre-ordering it through Amazon.JP.
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I hope this release has a composer breakdown, so we can finally know who did what. I know we can do guess work from the Monaca playlist on the site and cross reference other albums, but that only gets us so far.
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Well, MONACA has made sure to be careful with that for a while now. Both DOD3 and N:A had both composition AND arrangement credit, so we will at least know for sure who were the original composers for NieR Gestalt & Replicant. That still leaves out the possible original arrangers, but who knows, maybe they'll do a reprint of the original ost one day or another with full credits.
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Is there a source for the list of composers/arrangers that's already up on the album page? Can't seem to find it anywhere else.
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http://monaca-music.net/wiki/ニーア_レプリ...22474487139... |
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The game isn't out yet though, is there a detailed game credits list somewhere else? |
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optimism always leads to terrible letdowns.
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I really can’t imagine why they’re still not letting on. We know that some composer breakdown exists somewhere based on various album releases in the last 10 years, it’s also unambiguously there for all the songs rearranged in Automata. That rules out them having lost track of the breakdown or even all tracks being super collaborative, and I can’t think of other reasonable explanations.
At least it’s fairly obvious who composed the small number of new tracks. |
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Rights agreements, probably. Those have marred game composer breakdowns for decades.
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Maybe that’s it. But it’s still a bit weird - another rights issues example I’m aware of is Sonic 3, but they never credit the composers on any rearrangement and its complicated history is well known. Here Okabe seems to have complete creative control over producing albums and rearrangements and there’s no word of any controversy. Sure, I guess there can be different levels of rights agreements, in which case the best case scenario might be to hope that they had some reasonable time limit on that agreement.
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It's not just stuff like Sonic 3 where there are obvious complications. A lot of old game soundtracks are simply credited to Konami Kukeiha Club, Gamadelic, Zuntata, Falcom Sound Team JDK, etc with no additional information. This is because of how the composer contracts worked. The only reason we have breakdowns for any of those is because people asked the composers directly about their involvement decades later.
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So would be filling in the composer info on the original OST be a thing now?
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Well as you can read above, no, as there's not a single indivoidual compositition credit in there
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So hey, when I tag the composers in the mp3 files, I like to do [Composer Name] with [Vocal Singer's Name]. Usually there is a breakdown of which singer was on which track, but I don't see that here. Anybody got an idea?
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If you don't mind waiting i can try and do a breakdown of my own, but i gotta finish the game first since i wanna discover the ost in this way lol |
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I tried a composer (or "contributing artists", excluding singers) breakdown to use for my files, accounting for guesses/discussions in the 2010 OST's page. The composers and arranger for each track are ordered according to current composer-arranger > original composer and original composer > current (and maybe original, in Hoashi's or Takada's case) arranger. Hoashi or Takada might have also helped with the strings arrangement in some original songs such as Emil / Sacrifice which is not reflected here.
While a lot of these are based on official credits/Spotify playlists or info from Hoashi posted in the old album's page, many are (reasonable?) guesses so there's a very good chance at least some are not accurate. The nearly certain ones are Disc 1 - 1, 4, 5, 7-9, 13-15 Disc 2 - 1, 2, 4, 9-15 Disc 3 - 1, 2, 4-15. Disc 1: 1. Snow in Summer - Keiichi Okabe, Ryuichi Takada 2. Hills of Radiant Winds - Kakeru Ishihama, Oliver Good 3. The Incomplete Stone - Keiichi Okabe, Oliver Good 4. Blu-bird - Keiichi Okabe, Kuniyuki Takahashi 5. Song of the Ancients / Popola - Keiichi Okabe, Shotaro Seo 6. Cold Steel Coffin - Keiichi Okabe, Keigo Hoashi 7. Grandma - Keiichi Okabe, Keigo Hoashi 8. The Wretched Automatons - Keiichi Okabe, Kuniyuki Takahashi 9. Yonah / Pluck ver. - Keiichi Okabe, Keigo Hoashi 10. City of Commerce - Kakeru Ishihama, Kuniyuki Takahashi 11. The Prestigious Mask - Kakeru Ishihama, Kuniyuki Takahashi 12. Temple of Drifting Sands - Keiichi Okabe, Kuniyuki Takahashi 13. Gods Bound By Rules - Keiichi Okabe, Ryuichi Takada 14. Dispossession / Piano ver. - Keiichi Okabe, Kuniyuki Takahashi 15. Ashes of Dreams / New - Keiichi Okabe, Ryuichi Takada Disc 2: 1. Kainé / Premonition - Keigo Hoashi, Kakeru Ishihama 2. Song of the Ancients / Devola - Keiichi Okabe, Shotaro Seo 3. The Ultimate Weapon - Keiichi Okabe, Keigo Hoashi 4. Halua - Keigo Hoashi 5. Deep Crimson Foe - Keigo Hoashi, Keiichi Okabe 6. The Lost Forest - Kakeru Ishihama, Shotaro Seo 7. His Dream - Takafumi Nishimura, Shotaro Seo 8. This Dream - Takafumi Nishimura, Shotaro Seo 9. Dispossession / Strings ver. - Keiichi Okabe, Kuniyuki Takahashi 10. Kainé / Salvation - Kakeru Ishihama, Keigo Hoashi 11. The Dark Colossus Destroys All - Keiichi Okabe, Ryuichi Takada 12. Yonah / Piano ver. - Keiichi Okabe, Keigo Hoashi 13. Ashes of Dreams / Nouveau - Keiichi Okabe, Ryuichi Takada 14. Ashes of Dreams / Nuadhaich - Keiichi Okabe, Ryuichi Takada 15. Ashes of Dreams / Lost Music Box ver. - Keiichi Okabe, Ryuichi Takada Disc 3: 1. Fleeting Words / Family - Keiichi Okabe 2. Fleeting Words / Outsider - Keigo Hoashi, Keiichi Okabe 3. Repose - Keiichi Okabe, Shotaro Seo 4. Song of the Ancients / Hollow Dreams - Keiichi Okabe, Keigo Hoashi 5. Dispossession / Music Box ver. - Keiichi Okabe, Kuniyuki Takahashi 6. Shadowlord’s Castle - Keiichi Okabe, Kuniyuki Takahashi 7. Dance of the Evanescent - Keiichi Okabe, Kuniyuki Takahashi 8. Song of the Ancients / Fate - Keiichi Okabe, Kuniyuki Takahashi 9. Emil / Karma - Kakeru Ishihama, Keigo Hoashi, Kuniyuki Takahashi 10. Emil / Sacrifice - Kakeru Ishihama, Kuniyuki Takahashi 11. Shadowlord - Keigo Hoashi, Kuniyuki Takahashi 12. Analogous Memories - Keiichi Okabe, Keigo Hoashi 13. Grandma / Reunion - Keigo Hoashi, Keiichi Okabe 14. Kainé / Escape - Kakeru Ishihama, Keigo Hoashi 15. Ashes of Dreams / Aratanaru - Keiichi Okabe, Ryuichi Takada |
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Does anyone else's Dance of the Evanescent start ... sounding weird, midway through? I haven't played the game, but the youtube videos I pulled up of this track don't seem to include any of the weirdness.
Last edited by taaniel; Aug 1, 2021 at 03:06 PM. |
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This is done on purpose, because monsters appear while you explore the dancing room and the music gets more twisted before transitioning to "Shadowlord's Castle" (battle version). The transition within "Dance of the Evanescent" itself is actually pretty short in-game, and it's probably dynamic music, so I guess they've tried to make the track longer specifically for the soundtrack, so you can hear how it gradually collapses.
https://youtu.be/VmG8hz9RgvQ?list=PL...RtJfBUk&t=1023 |
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Very funny to see people think it may be an actual glitch on the CD's part
But yeah, it's all on purpose I'm sure you can hear it like in the ost if you pause the game at the moment of the transition, since BGM still plays in the pause menu. Either way i'm glad they included the full distortion part, unlike the original ost, which didn't have it featured at all |
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Thanks for confirming! Glad to hear it's not a misprint/error.
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