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Suggestions to update Pokémon franchise page
Seeing as this page is badly in need of updating, here's some suggestions for adding product pages.
Since the games are released in pairs but usually have essentially the same soundtrack, I think we should just follow how Nintendo named them, so one product page for Red & Green, Gold & Silver etc. (just follow how I put it below preferably) and standardize it for this site. I've already changed the product listings on the albums listed below, if I missed any (probably the doujin/fan arrange ones) feel free to change them and link them once the pages are made. Product - Releases Pokémon: Red & Green (JP: Feb 27 1996) - Pokémon: Blue (JP: Oct 15 1996) - Pokémon Red Version & Blue Version (US: 1 Sep 1998, EU: 10 Jun 1999) - Pokémon Yellow Version: Special Pikachu Edition (JP: 12 Sep 1998, US: 1 Oct 1999, EU: 16 Jun 2000) - Pokémon FireRed Version & LeafGreen Version (JP: 29 Jan 2004, US: 9 Sep 2004, EU: Oct 1 2004) Relevant albums: http://vgmdb.net/album/141 http://vgmdb.net/album/9790 http://vgmdb.net/album/14883 http://vgmdb.net/album/22597 http://vgmdb.net/album/4336 http://vgmdb.net/album/35807 http://vgmdb.net/album/37316 http://vgmdb.net/album/37820 http://vgmdb.net/album/41177 http://vgmdb.net/album/24276 http://vgmdb.net/album/12772 http://vgmdb.net/album/15764 http://vgmdb.net/album/17403 http://vgmdb.net/album/31695 http://vgmdb.net/album/29666 http://vgmdb.net/album/6779 http://vgmdb.net/album/32638 http://vgmdb.net/album/41508 Pokémon Gold Version & Silver Version (JP: 21 Nov 1999, US: 15 Oct 2000, EU: 6 Apr 2001) - Pokémon Crystal Version (JP: 14 Dec 2000, US: 29 Jul 2001, EU: 2 Nov 2001) - Pokémon HeartGold Version & SoulSilver Version (JP: 12 Sep 2009, US: 14 Mar 2010, EU: 26 Mar 2010) Relevant albums: http://vgmdb.net/album/15237 http://vgmdb.net/album/41177 http://vgmdb.net/album/24276 http://vgmdb.net/album/12772 http://vgmdb.net/album/15764 http://vgmdb.net/album/17403 http://vgmdb.net/album/31695 http://vgmdb.net/album/29666 http://vgmdb.net/album/11608 http://vgmdb.net/album/13470 http://vgmdb.net/album/17719 http://vgmdb.net/album/41599 http://vgmdb.net/album/34386 http://vgmdb.net/album/37916 Pokémon Ruby Version & Sapphire Version (JP: 21 Nov 2002, US: 19 Mar 2003, EU: 25 Jul 2003) - Pokémon Emerald Version (JP: 16 Sep 2004, US: 1 May 2005, EU: 21 Oct 2005) Relevant albums: http://vgmdb.net/album/1024 http://vgmdb.net/album/24276 http://vgmdb.net/album/29826 http://vgmdb.net/album/15764 http://vgmdb.net/album/17403 http://vgmdb.net/album/31695 Pokémon Diamond Version & Pearl Version (JP: 28 Sep 2006, US: 22 Apr 2007, EU: 27 Jul 2007) - Pokémon Platinum Version (JP: 13 Sep 2008, US: 22 Mar 2009, EU: 22 May 2009) Relevant albums: http://vgmdb.net/album/3945 http://vgmdb.net/album/41177 http://vgmdb.net/album/24276 http://vgmdb.net/album/17403 http://vgmdb.net/album/31695 http://vgmdb.net/album/29666 http://vgmdb.net/album/17071 http://vgmdb.net/album/37976 http://vgmdb.net/album/41339 Pokémon Black Version & White Version (JP: 18 Sep 2010, US: 6 Mar 2011, EU: 4 Mar 2011) Relevant albums: http://vgmdb.net/album/20831 http://vgmdb.net/album/36396 http://vgmdb.net/album/31695 http://vgmdb.net/album/29666 Pokémon Black Version 2 & White Version 2 (JP: 23 Jun 2012, US: 7 Oct 2012, EU: 12 Oct 2012) (not a remake of BW but is a sequel, so needs it's own page) Relevant albums: http://vgmdb.net/album/33367 http://vgmdb.net/album/37333 http://vgmdb.net/album/36396 http://vgmdb.net/album/37116 Pokémon X & Y (Worldwide: Oct 12 2013) (the 'version' part of the title is indeed dropped) Relevant albums: http://vgmdb.net/album/41066 http://vgmdb.net/album/41177 Side titles (only listed games that have relevant albums on this site) Pokémon Stadium (JP: 1 Aug 1998) - Pokémon Stadium (JP: 30 Apr 1999, US: 29 Feb 2000, EU: 7 Apr 2000) Relevant albums: http://vgmdb.net/album/9790 http://vgmdb.net/album/1401 Pokémon Snap (JP: 21 Mar 1999, US: 30 Jul 1999, EU: 15 Sep 2000) - Pokémon Snap (Wii Virtual Console rerelease; JP: 4 Dec 2007, US: 10 Dec 2007, EU: 11 Dec 2007) Relevant albums: http://vgmdb.net/album/1401 Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR! (JP: 8 Mar 2001) Relevant albums: http://vgmdb.net/album/15764 Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team & Blue Rescue Team (JP: Nov 17 2005, US: 18 Sep 2006, EU: 10 Nov 2006) (Red on GBA and Blue on DS) Relevant albums: http://vgmdb.net/album/29826 Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time & Explorers of Darkness (JP: 13 Sep 2007, US: 20 Apr 2008, EU: 4 Jul 2008) - Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky (JP: 18 Apr 2009, US: 12 Oct 2009, EU: 20 Nov 2009) Relevant albums: http://vgmdb.net/album/29826 http://vgmdb.net/album/15764 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anime/TV Pokémon (JP, Apr 1st 1997) - Pokémon: Indigo League (US, Sep 8th 1998) - Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands (US, Jan 8th 2000) - Pokémon: The Johto Journeys (US, Oct 14th 2000) - Pokémon: Johto League Champions (US, Aug 18th 2001) - Pokémon: Master Quest (US, Sep 14th 2002) Relevant albums: http://vgmdb.net/album/17519 http://vgmdb.net/album/1639 http://vgmdb.net/album/18402 http://vgmdb.net/album/18401 http://vgmdb.net/album/13752 http://vgmdb.net/album/18505 http://vgmdb.net/album/18506 http://vgmdb.net/album/18398 http://vgmdb.net/album/18396 http://vgmdb.net/album/18395 http://vgmdb.net/album/18388 http://vgmdb.net/album/18387 http://vgmdb.net/album/23536 http://vgmdb.net/album/23533 http://vgmdb.net/album/19037 http://vgmdb.net/album/18378 http://vgmdb.net/album/18375 http://vgmdb.net/album/22089 http://vgmdb.net/album/19068 http://vgmdb.net/album/22198 http://vgmdb.net/album/22497 http://vgmdb.net/album/26868 http://vgmdb.net/album/35776 http://vgmdb.net/album/38582 http://vgmdb.net/album/38581 http://vgmdb.net/album/38638 http://vgmdb.net/album/38690 http://vgmdb.net/album/38691 http://vgmdb.net/album/38579 http://vgmdb.net/album/38580 http://vgmdb.net/album/33711 http://vgmdb.net/album/37026 http://vgmdb.net/album/20808 http://vgmdb.net/album/38361 Pokémon Advanced Generation (JP, Nov 21st 2002) - Pokémon: Advanced (US, Nov 1st 2003) - Pokémon: Advanced Challenge (US, Sep 11th 2004) - Pokémon: Advanced Battle (US, Sep 17th 2005) - Pokémon: Battle Frontier (US, Sep 8th 2006) Relevant albums: http://vgmdb.net/album/18373 http://vgmdb.net/album/22089 http://vgmdb.net/album/18368 http://vgmdb.net/album/19068 http://vgmdb.net/album/18363 http://vgmdb.net/album/18820 http://vgmdb.net/album/18817 http://vgmdb.net/album/18359 http://vgmdb.net/album/18504 http://vgmdb.net/album/18347 http://vgmdb.net/album/22198 http://vgmdb.net/album/22497 http://vgmdb.net/album/26868 http://vgmdb.net/album/35776 http://vgmdb.net/album/38581 http://vgmdb.net/album/38579 http://vgmdb.net/album/38580 Pokémon Sunday (JP, Oct 3 2004) Relevant albums: http://vgmdb.net/album/18361 http://vgmdb.net/album/18504 http://vgmdb.net/album/19112 http://vgmdb.net/album/22104 http://vgmdb.net/album/22101 http://vgmdb.net/album/16693 http://vgmdb.net/album/16697 Pokémon Diamond & Pearl (JP, Sep 28th 2006) - Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl (US, Apr 20th 2007) - Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Battle Dimension (US, Apr 12th 2008) - Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Galactic Battles (US, May 9th 2009) - Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Sinnoh League Victors (US, Jun 5th 2010) Relevant albums: http://vgmdb.net/album/26986 http://vgmdb.net/album/18843 http://vgmdb.net/album/18848 http://vgmdb.net/album/17013 http://vgmdb.net/album/16901 http://vgmdb.net/album/18852 http://vgmdb.net/album/18857 http://vgmdb.net/album/22157 http://vgmdb.net/album/22198 http://vgmdb.net/album/22497 http://vgmdb.net/album/26868 http://vgmdb.net/album/35776 I'll get around to the rest of the anime and anime movies soon.
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Ooh. The remakes NEED to be split though, they're very different in every way except basic concept. Also, it would be reasonable to treat Pocket Monsters' Stadium and Pocket Monsters' Stadium 2 as two different products, for the same reason we treat any "'sequel' that looks like an 'upgrade" as separate.
Fun fact: both the naming thing and the sequel thing are quirks shared by Shin Sangokumusou; two series provide yet another pair of compelling reasons why we absolutely need to adhere to original names and treat all others as second-rate alternatives, fun facts of history... they simply are, as dictated by reality. ...Enough about that. I'm unsure about Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum; they're somewhat different products with a different focus, meant to be "separate" from the first pairs; Black/White 2 may have "more", but they're still very close to the likes of those in spirit and in raw changes. |
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I actually think that for the purposes of this site, the remakes can be put as releases as they do share the same soundtrack except with additions.
I'll leave it up to the trusted editiors to decide.
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Well, for once, the person that started that page seemingly got overwhelmed with the sheer volume of the series...or was aiming to make that solely for the anime. Either way, if a separation between both could be made, then that page could be kept as-is and be used for the anime and make a new one for the games - whatever works best, I think.
As for the title distinctions, I usually went for the "one at a time" route, as in list each name separately whenever making an entry that involves the games (i.e. Pokémon Green, Pokémon Red, etc.). After revising some of my entries, I agree to following the same order Nintendo usually does, as it makes things look better and organized. Lastly, Despatche, split as in how, exactly? Whether they're special editions, updated versions, or just the remakes, they're still part of the same franchise. Granted, were I to make an entry of a doujin that has arrangements and/or remixes from the first games, I'm not going to list the remakes, other than including the special edition. If that's what you mean, then cool, I agree, otherwise you're being capriciously anal about stuff that in the end doesn't affect the flow of things.
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I had planned to update the pokemon page, honestly I need courage =)
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I started going through the Pokemon video game catalog last week and went to the product page to use it as a reference. I was sad (and surprised) to see that it was non-existent. I agree with 413/0; I would prefer to see the anime and video game products separated.
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Franchise pages, simply speaking, include everything. No animation or game separation, at least that wasn't done so far. Color says whether's a game, animation, print publication etc.
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Fair enough. That's where my proposal for having a filter between album categories would come in handy! (http://vgmdb.net/forums/showthread.php?t=11871)
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Happy X&Y people~
I've finished editing the product listings for most of the relevant albums for the anime (Best Wishes is missing a few albums that I'll add later), so the headpost is updated with stuff I've edited. Will finish soon~
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stop adding op/ed details at the end of track details, it's not clearly visible
don't bother with more editing, I'm doing the thing but if you want to add more albums, go for it |
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There's quite a bit of stuff left here that's unlinked, I dunno if you missed them or are still in the process of linking, just a heads up.
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it's a matter of life or death if I don't assign everything in a row? or I can assign little by little?
you must be aware I make searches before assigning and after a moment it's annoying (I'm not gonna spend my life to assign products, I'm almost sure it's the same for everyone) just be patient, the site won't fly away |
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sorry if I came across as impatient, I was just worried that you forgot :P
yeah, there's no rush, I won't ask anymore. Sorry~
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I didn't forget, however I could need help for some non-japanese releases
also, since I don't care doujin albums, someone else should assign (in case they exist) edit: I don't know if all vgmdb pokémon albums are in your first post, but you could update it by adding a sort of [linked] tag at the right of links Last edited by Phonograph; Nov 19, 2013 at 04:59 AM. |
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