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This is the first time this happens. 0.o
For some reason the scans I uploaded were uploaded in double. And NO I did not uploaded them in double. I fetched the files, uploaded, and on my left side I have the pictures showing. I was making sure it was all named good. When I click save, I suddenly saw, when the submission page is complete, these unnamed fields for pictures. I got to edit the scans section and saw all those pics in double. I wrote "DELETE" on the ones that are doubled. |
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This is a film soundtrack. Why is it in game music? Do only animated films go into the other section? Rurouni Kenshin is chiefly an anime series.
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oh, if you are going to have that question then.... you should see the Joe Hisaishi database here including TV dramas soundtracks or movie dramas not related to anime or game or anything else.
Ask about those first, and then come asking about a live action movie soundtrack related to an anime, with also game soundtracks.
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In regards to the doubled-scans, sorry: it was my fault. When I viewed the album page, the only scan listed was the Front, so I've batch-uploaded the rest.
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again, that old discussion
just add a "live-action" category (allowing drama to be added) and stop discussing that once and for all (not talking to anyone in particular, or to SS maybe) |
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What are the odds of that happening? xD
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Oops, is this an old discussion? Sorry, I didn't know, but I guess that says something about the issue
Here's the thing though: we don't have a live action category. So, shouldn't live films based on game media go in game, and live films based on anime media go in anime? It just seems sensible. Rurouni Kenshin is an anime series. It has a couple games after the anime, but it was created as an anime and is chiefly thought of as an anime. I think the related films should be in the anime category. |
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Oh also kind of missed this post somehow, sorry.
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No offense to you RomanticScent, I just... don't think this belongs on VGMdb. It's not game or even anime. It's a distant cousin. |
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that discussion is like flu, it comes back every year
with that sempiternal excuse used: hisaishi drama stuff is in the db so why not other stuff bleh, it could be added like animation was at its debut (little by little) it's not like there are many more vgm stuff to add now (since SS had said he wanted to have a good deal of anime etc before drama, it's time or it could never be time) |
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No offense taken. But these discussions at this point make me laugh crazy. No offense to you to, and I know what you mean and are you trying to get.
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It is not classified in game music. Live-action movies based on video game or animation series (as well as completely original work albums that don't have any represented product) do not have a category, this isn't classified in either game or animation. Look at Sato's page, do you notice different color for this album? Yeah, dark blue ones have no category classification.
If a discussion is started for any of these that do not have a category, forum thread will be auto-created in vg section, it was always like this unless SS or Blah or someone else changes the default destination of these threads. |
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Ohhhhhhhh man that is so confusing but okay, on the page for this entry it just says Movie. This post
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(And seriously whyyyyyy do we include stuff like this it is excessive.) EDIT: brb adding Come Clean to the database because it contains Blurry which was used in Ace Combat 5 so it's relevant content to the database. I mean, where does it stop Last edited by Hellacia; Sep 15, 2014 at 05:12 PM. |
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Is it really that bad for VGMdb to expand the "range" of material it covers, over time? I mean, if folks really have a problem with this, what should we say about the "Original Work" kind of albums? These seem to be featured here mainly because they're Anime/Video Game Music artists' works, but other than that, how are they tied to VGM?
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the problem maybe comes from the fact that anime or vgm is "known" (dbz, ff, dq, etc)
drama, sentai, etc are quite obscure or not well "known" personally, I don't mind checking those kind of releases |
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They're not
I guess I'm just the grumpy old coot that wants the database to be about something particular. I'm not saying because the site is named VGMdb it has to be only about game music. I like the inclusion of anime music. But adding Disney shit is lame. Adding random B-Boy park albums because they're on a certain record label (seriously, wtf?) is lame. Adding Nobuo Uematsu's CD of random-ass music just because he composed x amount of game music soundtracks is lame. Adding anything from Touhou is lame. It should have its own database, seriously. This page is an absolute joke - watch how long it takes your computer just to load it. I'm on a $1500 gaming computer and it took about 12 seconds to load it. Now look how much is orange. Now look how many people care about dumb Touhou doujins. Yeah, that shit should have its own database. Let people on a Touhou wiki somewhere care about that shit. But whatever, it's not my database. I'm just exercising my right to express my stupid opinion. |
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Hellacia, are you saying that game music shouldn't be on VGMdb if it's Touhou? :P
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One individual even grumpier could point out that "Anime" still is a shortened way to say Animation, and what makes Japanese Animation ok to stay here? The mere fact that it is Japanese? What standards. :P
If you include that stuff, there isn't really that much of an argument against the presence of Western-Animation-related albums, here. |
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I guess blah used a trick about that by using "visual arts", maybe vgmdb could mean "visual arts/game music database" now Quote:
about solo albums, I don't find it bothersome as for touhou, my opinion about that is known but I can recall it, I filter it and I want product pages can filter that shit too Quote:
you could have the fastest computer of the world, if the server takes time to generate the page so it'll be slow for everybody |
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http://i.minus.com/ibwnfrn1pgakp2.gif so that's not anything new now, is it? |
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I didn't know the original logo
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I still hope the database will be split in half someday. It have been only evoked in the past, but the idea is great. One database dedicated to vgm, one for anime.
We got vgm, anime, demo-scene music, japanese hardcore whatever i don't even know music, pachi machines music, doujins, touhou, film related music... Propably 50% of stuff i personally would like to exclude. |
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I think with all the extra stuff (live action, original work, etc) the place loses its identity. It's as if Burger King starts specializing in pizza and tacos on top of their main course - burgers. I say no to that. Don't confuse a customer, just give me a goddamn burger.
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Granted I myself submitted 1 or 2 original work albums in the past but in retrospect I don't think they belong here. I support the idea of a split database for anime (AMdb or AniMdb or something), as for everything else like Live Action, Disney animation, Original Work, Demo Scene - I don't even know where to stick it, but it shouldn't be in vgmdb. |
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Actually, I hadn't known that people had talked about splitting the database. That would be the most sensible move, though I have no idea how that's even possible at this point. Quote:
An important thing to know about words: there's a (sometimes antiquated) dictionary definition for a word, and then there's what it means in the everyday practice of a culture. That usage is the real meaning of the word, since it's how the word is... well, meant when people say it. That the word "anime" is a shortened pronunciation of the word "animation" doesn't really have any meaning when people use it to describe a particular thing. But like it's already been said, it's the database of "visual arts" so what-everrrrrrrrrr Quote:
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And my few cents in subject, I'm fine with all the demo scene stuff, original works from well-known/profilic composers, and western anime stuff being on the database, and I really would hate to see a split in db. And to be honest, it would be silly, especially when nowadays composers on eastern side do jump between games and anime. Live action stuff is bit iffy, unless it's tied to a game/anime franchise. Even on those cases, there could be some case by case discussions going on. Some ruling standards are good, but some cases should be open for discussion, like Hiroyuki Sawano's other works to be added or not for example.
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Ah, I read it as the Xenosaga example. And on the case of Blurry, perhaps good middleground would be to add the single instead of the full Puddle of Mudd album.
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This too, yup, there's a sort of a ruling standard if the composer has most works in game/animation area (pure numerically speaking, so his/hers other works do not outnumber game/animation works), you can add anything else here but that thing is broken in Hisaishi's case where his (Ghibli) popularity had more influence... Sawano and other people could take the Hisaishi card one day. |
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Also for Ace Combat, here's a Grand Theft Auto (San Andreas for example) analogy - let's add every album (or single) where the licensed songs were originally released years before the game. Because the licensed songs of GTA: SA are effectively the game's soundtrack. How about that hahahahahaha
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Is it game music or is it not game music? It is game music? It is played in a game and is the soundtrack to the game? Okay then, let's add it to the database.
Or, better idea! Let's have some kind of filter as to when content just simply isn't appropriate for the database. If you think I really want Come Clean to be in the database, you're missing my point. I think that would be one of the dumbest additions to the database ever. But we're seriously going to rule that out and then still include fucking B-Boy Park 2000 albums because hurr hurr they're on a certain record label? Bullshit. Movies are visual arts, are they not? I can't think of a better way to describe them. That's exactly what they are. Now let's add EVERY MOVIE SOUNDTRACK EVER and what does this database focus on anymore? I accept I'm in a minority. There's my worthless opinion once again. Thanks for reading. |
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