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Old Mar 10, 2009, 05:42 AM
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Booklet front & obi are borked in my browser (FF 3.0.7).
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Old Mar 10, 2009, 06:19 AM
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I got the same problem with FF 2.0.0.20.

I renamed these covers yesterday, it was working..
Maybe we could fix this by renaming or / deleting-uploading again BUT i'll let the staff search why this kind of error (i have seen this on a few other albums) is happening.
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Old Sep 11, 2009, 01:41 PM
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I rejected some tracklist edits here, so I need to give an explanation.

1.) For tracks that are in English on the original tracklist, we generally follow the original capitalization and spelling

2.) We use American English spellings instead of British/Canadian/etc. (i.e. Center vs. Centre) This isn't to say that one is more correct than the other; it's just that we're based out of the US.

Also, how do we know that 43 is Knight Head vs Night Head?
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Old Jan 24, 2010, 02:01 PM
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I think track 41 may be better rendered as "Carefree Peddler" or such.
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Old Feb 27, 2010, 09:42 PM
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Fixed the orientation of the front cover. It's policy to orient the title to reflect how it should be viewed, not how it's actually printed relative to the booklet.

Also, fixed the titles. The front & back are both listed as "Castlevania Circle of the Moon & Castlevania Concerto of Midnight Sun Original Soundtrack". It's already in English, so there's no reason to change it. You got the obi for the the Romaji and Original names.

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Fixed the orientation of the front cover. It's policy to orient the title to reflect how it should be viewed, not how it's actually printed relative to the booklet.
If you want to stay consistent with this rule there's also LC1609~10 to flip on its side. I would however reconsider this stance, as keeping the images the way they are originally presented is more true to the source; also there could be cases where one cannot really say "how" it should be viewed; and finally, anyone can easily flip them if they want.
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Old Feb 28, 2010, 01:33 AM
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Personally, I think this should be taken care of by Javascript. I'll work on it soon.
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Old Feb 28, 2010, 05:43 AM
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Fixed the orientation of the front cover. It's policy to orient the title to reflect how it should be viewed, not how it's actually printed relative to the booklet.
Actually, we've been reorienting "Booklet Front" and "Front" to be readable, and leaving "Case Front" as the accurate view of how it would be viewed on the shelf.
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Old Feb 28, 2010, 05:34 PM
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Actually, we've been reorienting "Booklet Front" and "Front" to be readable, and leaving "Case Front" as the accurate view of how it would be viewed on the shelf.
I wasn't aware, but that seems sensible to me. Perhaps you should keep that as a note for a possible Album Scans guidelines thread.
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Old Feb 28, 2010, 05:53 PM
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Based on SS's newly proposed album title guidelines, and to be consistent with the other GBA Castlevania album, I'm swapping the album titles again.
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For all the tracks listed without a composer.. those are done by KONAMI KUKEIHA CLUB, or am I wrong? I feel uncertain.. even while staring at the booklet.
Well, actually the thing that makes me wonder is why they are not listed as a composer if they did.

edit: I just looked at my tags for this soundtrack (forgot I had it), and I have the tracks as KONAMI KUKEIHA CLUB, so I am guessing it's safe to credit them.

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Old May 2, 2010, 01:44 PM
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Tracks 20~45: from Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance

Tracks originally from:

Track 44: from Castlevania / Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse (FC)
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Sound Composer:

Concerto of Midnight Sun / Soshiro Hokkai (tr20~41)
Michiru Yamane (tr42~44)
Does this mean that Yamane composed for either Castlevania or Castlevania III?
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Old Apr 13, 2011, 07:27 AM
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Yamane's credit should mean that she composed the original tracks (42 and 43) and arranged/newly composed borrowed tracks (44); the same should go for every other mention. The original composers are credited with "Original Sound Composed by KONAMI KUKEIHA CLUB".

(...Why didn't they just put BnC and AoM together? They're perfect for each other.)

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A pity this doesn't include a general arranger credit. Despite the composer discrepancies, all the Circle of the Moon tracks have a similar sound to them and most of the reused tunes have additional bits that the originals lacked. Yamane did something similar for VK2K2, anyhow, and still gets named.
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Made me wonder why we have "byakuya no concerto" in one of the alternative titles. Romanizing the name should have "byakuya no kyōsōkyoku" (or kyousoukyoku, if you prefer) in it. "Byakuya no concerto" would make as much sense as "white night's kyōsōkyoku", right? I suggest that it be changed to the full romanization, not keep it as the half-romaji, half-translation it is now.
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Made me wonder why we have "byakuya no concerto" in one of the alternative titles. Romanizing the name should have "byakuya no kyōsōkyoku" (or kyousoukyoku, if you prefer) in it. "Byakuya no concerto" would make as much sense as "white night's kyōsōkyoku", right? I suggest that it be changed to the full romanization, not keep it as the half-romaji, half-translation it is now.
sorry but it has sense to have byakuya no cencerto, the obi has the title written in japanese with its reading above (aka furigana) -> kyousoukyoku as concerto, so it won't be changed
however, katakana of concerto could be added in the japanese title
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I see both arguments. There is 狂想曲 (rhapsody) and there is 協奏曲 (concerto) and the second one is what's used here. However, both words are pronounced the same way (kyousoukyoku), so writing コンチェルト above 協奏曲 lets you know which one they meant. At the same time, the word 協奏曲 is not the word コンチェルト. It's kyousoukyoku, not koncheruto (concerto). I see that they were letting the reader know which one they meant, but that is the idea of furigana: it supplies information about readings, not how to write something. It's still written as kyousoukyoku, because that is 協奏曲.
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I think when we romanize a Japanese word, we are romanizing how to read it, not how to write it.
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When I take a look at the Castlevania franchise page this album shows up as "Unclassified" for some reason, despite appearing as "Commercial, Arrangement" on the OSTs page. Can a trusted editor please fix this bug?
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I see both arguments. There is 狂想曲 (rhapsody) and there is 協奏曲 (concerto) and the second one is what's used here. However, both words are pronounced the same way (kyousoukyoku), so writing コンチェルト above 協奏曲 lets you know which one they meant. At the same time, the word 協奏曲 is not the word コンチェルト. It's kyousoukyoku, not koncheruto (concerto). I see that they were letting the reader know which one they meant, but that is the idea of furigana: it supplies information about readings, not how to write something. It's still written as kyousoukyoku, because that is 協奏曲.
Late, but this is an extremely common phenomenon in Japanese media, and is handled in a very specific and very obvious way. What has been said is absolutely correct; you still write out the kanji and they have the same meaning, but you pronounce them in a completely different way, and romanization must follow this because it is a system specifically concerning the pronunciation of Japanese words. Furigana completely defines or even replaces how to pronounce the original word or phrase, which is also how we get so many great puns.

In Japan, Dragon Ball Super is indeed pronounced "dragon ball super", despite that big fat "超" kanji there normally having a totally different pronunciation. Similarly, the descriptor for Cyber Formula is always pronounced "future grand prix"; the spoken "future" completely stands in for the the clearly printed "新世紀" phrase. Likewise, over in Japan, the title of this game is always pronounced "byakuya no concerto". You are being told that "concerto" is a valid way of pronouncing "協奏曲" for the purposes of this game, and the simplified form of "白夜の協奏曲" is always "びゃくやのコンチェルト" without fail.

This is different, but related to, official translations. We have a fantastic example of that right here as well: you'll note the "Concerto of Midnight Sun" clearly on display in this album (it's in other places as well IIRC). You'll pretty much never hear that phrase in Japan because they use the above, and you'll never hear that phrase in the west because they have "Harmony of Dissonance". But you're given the impression that "Concerto of Midnight Sun" is an acceptable alternative to "白夜の協奏曲", if you ever wanted to use it. It's also closer to the source than "Harmony of Dissonance", because of its meaning... and because it is a title dictated by the same organization responsible for the main "白夜の協奏曲" title and also meant for the same market as the main. "Harmony of Dissonance", on the other hand, is a largely unrelated title dictated by a totally different arm of that organization for a totally different market, completely regardless of how much that arm understands or feels about the original title.

In fact, the meaning is irrelevant; if "Harmony of Dissonance" was the official translation and "Concerto of Midnight Sun" was the localized title instead, we would have the exact same situation, even though the "Harmony of Dissonance" phrase has nothing to do with "白夜の協奏曲". We even have an example of this on the album here; you see that "Castlevania" is replacing "悪魔城ドラキュラ" wholesale for CotM's mention, even though the two terms are only vaguely related in meaning. Part of this has to do with Konami temporarily rebranding the series "Castlevania" in Japan at this point, but this does not subtract from the point that "Castlevania" is being used as an acceptable alternative to "悪魔城ドラキュラ" here. And yes, this is despite "Castlevania" being created as a localized title by a different arm for a different market in the first place.

This is the power that a creator has over naming their work. This principle is not to be ignored or belittled for any reason, no matter how "insane" it may seem to get. I always hear this horror story of creators acting foolish just to troll people, and this is used as an excuse to degrade the entire principle. Thing is, titles are such a simple idea that it's not really possible to troll people in such a way without also trolling yourself. We're supposed to shun such creators anyway, like we do with those crazy Japanese light novel authors with their paragraph-long titles; this is basically a funny meme that keeps getting passed around authors, probably trying to outdo each other. For what it's worth, the official story is that the light novel meme started off as a way to grab the attention of buyers. Making a really long title is a pretty simple trick, all things considered. Western authors used to do it all the time, and it was not done to troll people at all like it is in Japan now, nor does it seem like it was done to distinguish a work seeing as pretty much everyone did it.

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Here's the titles listed in Harmony of Dissonance's Sound Mode for anyone who may have been curious.
Unrelated, but I found it odd that "血脈の印" was translated differently on the Amazon/iTunes releases for CoM/HoD & 64. The former translates it as "Sign of Bloodlines" while the later went with "Sign of Blood Relationship."

00 Title BGM 1
01 Title BGM 2
02 Name Entry
03 Prologue Theme of MAXIM KISCHINE
04 Entrance (Area BGM) Theme of JUSTE BELMONT
05 Marble Corridor (Area BGM)
06 Shrine of the Apostates (Area BGM)
07 Luminous Cavern (Area BGM)
08 Aqueduct of Dragons (Area BGM)
09 Chapel of Dissonance (Area BGM)
10 Clock Tower (Area BGM)
11 Skeleton Cave (Area BGM)
12 Castle (Area BGM)
13 Theme of DEATH
14 Boss (Loop Pattern A)
15 Boss (Loop Pattern B)
16 Boss (Loop Pattern C)
17 Epilogue 1
18 Game Over
19 Theme of DRACULA
20 Last Battle
21 Epilogue 2 Theme of LYDIE ERLANGER
22 Credits Theme of JUSTE BELMONT
23 Extra Stage Music 1
24 Extra Stage Music 2
25 Extra Stage Music 3 "Vampire Killer"
26 Extra Stage Music 4
27 Theme of MERCHANT
28 Theme of MAXIM KISCHINE
29 Theme of LYDIE ERLANGER
30 The Item Collection Room BGM

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