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Is this licensed by Capcom?
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Yes. The back of the picture disc shows the publisher as Spacelab9, then it also has Capcom and Sumthing Else logos, and then in the fine print it has copyright statements from Capcom.
Strange that it's a Hot Topic exclusive. |
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And it's already sold out. It was FAST, my goodness...
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Wait a moment, they skipped Mega Man 3?
THEY SKIPPED MEGA MAN 3??? |
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I wonder which version of Tengu Man they used?
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Added a composer breakdown for the uninformed, but there doesn't seem to be a full one for Mega Man 7.
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Yeah, as far as I'm aware we still don't have a full breakdown for MM7. Our entry for the soundtrack had all the confirmed info as of a few years ago, but I'm not positive that we haven't learned more since then.
Tomozawa said on Twitter that he did Bass's theme. |
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That was my first thought as well. Blasphemy.
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Funny, I say the same thing about chiptune vinyl in 20freaking15.
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Is this a new hype/trend? I do see vinyl players being sold in chain stores so the answer must be yes.
http://data-discs.com/ I guess it's not too hard to make, since there isn't much added value (existing music, existing artworks...), and you're sure to sell out everything if you produce a couple thousand pieces. Now just wait some time and 80% of the copies will be resold to make a profit. |
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I agree 100% with what you said, and it's fueled by 1) an appeal to being sort of counter-culture and special, the feeling of specialness enhanced by a large proportion of records released these days being limited editions, and 2) by the provably scientifically false belief that vinyl offers, not only better sound than a CD, but the ultimate in sound quality. Even if the dedicated vinyl audiophiles don't make up a majority, they're such vocal advocates of vinyl that I suspect most who buy records have at least heard that opinion and have incorporated it on some level in their idea of the format, even if they don't think about it much. Some proponents admit it has more distortions but that they just like the sound of them, which is valid and I appreciate the honesty, but to me, if the point is to enjoy analog distortions, go big or go home -- gimme a tape of chiptune music!
I kind of hate that some of these things look to me like attractive things to buy because I'm still susceptible to the idea that it's kinda "neat" and cool to have. I haven't bought any yet, but that would surely change the moment something by Sakimoto came out on vinyl... And of course, I'd be one of those people who wouldn't play it or likely even open it. Grr. (Not that I would resell it and scalp people though, that's not very nice.) |
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As a collector's item, sure. As an item that directly supports the artist, sure.
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I would hate to see what these hipsters would think if they bothered to invest in a halfway decent DAC for their digital music. A cheap vinyl rig probably beats a cheap digital rig (because of the crappy digital conversion), but the cost and effort of upgrading and managing a vinyl rig is a fraction of what it takes to get digital music to sound good.
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(And that tape player has stereo speakers, that's more chick magnet than splatter vinyls.) Last edited by LuxKiller65; Oct 12, 2019 at 05:42 PM. |
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I think that's the idea, yes. Also, they are tapping a new market of people who aren't game collectors or even game enthusiasts. I think they are what some people identify as hipsters. Sort of like the aunties that Nintendo targeted with the Wii and some of its, ehr, games.
Here some articles, not necessarily accurate, and not necessarily my point of view: https://www.forbes.com/sites/laureno.../#458a01021bc8 https://hometheaterreview.com/remind...l-still-sucks/ https://qz.com/103785/hipsters-are-b...ening-to-them/ Last edited by LuxKiller65; Oct 13, 2019 at 05:27 AM. |
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vinyl if done properly is definitely a better sound but is an acquired taste. I’m not sure if the warmth of a vinyl pressing is really going to shine through on 8/16 bit soundtracks though.
As far as fads go, vinyl is in a fad resurgence as a collectors item that a lot of younger people buy at places like hot topic and urban outfitters to frame and hang in their rooms. That’s the fad part of it. But vinyl collectors and enthusiasts have been around forever and I’m sure will continue to be. I don’t really think vgm vinyls fall into this category though. |
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"Better" is subjective here. There is indeed a warmer sound to it, but that's not necessarily what the music was meant to sound like. It's a colored sound and some people may prefer that colored sound, but to say that's better or higher fidelity is false. (Also if you really wanted to, you could master a digital album to sound that way)
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Isn't there an issue with vinyls if the source material is digital, and then moved onto vinyl which is analog?
Also, are the old GMO vinyls and these new trendy vinyls comparable? I mean in terms of vinyl materials used, manufacturing process, and also in terms of source files/recording and transfer to vinyl? I can't find any info on the websites of these post 2014 vinyls regarding their work process. All the << vinyl vs. cd vs. tape quality >> threads I've seen turned into Vietnam wars |
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Source material for new records vary. Some labels are provided with the material from the companies, some extract it themselves from the game hardware. Some labels have in-house mastering engineers, some use freelance mastering engineers, some allow the pressing plants to do the mastering. Manufacturing process can differ between labels. Some work with multiple companies to work on different stages of manufacturing, others work only with the pressing plant (who in most cases can handle all parts of manufacturing themselves). In most cases the labels will handle the mastering themselves or in collaboration with a mastering studio and then leave the rest of the manufacturing to the pressing plant. The actual vinyl material used between GMO and now is likely identical (or close) apart colored vinyl being much more popular now. I imagine the pressing process itself is mostly unchanged. Most pressing plants are still running on old machinery from back in the golden age of vinyl since production of new parts is something that only started up again in recent years. Quote:
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So two years later and I am increasingly convinced that most of these vinyl releases of game music are made for inner-city hipsters who like collecting stuff and/or video game grading style capitalists creating fake value out of old stuff to sell to the anti-capitalist hipster consoomers.
If it's about the physical item, then CDs can fulfill that need. If it's about the music, then digital releases can fulfill that need. If it's about unreleased music, then audio ripped from the game ROM/iso can fulfill that need. In the case of Rockman, the Rockman Sound Boxes full of previously unreleased Rockman music. If it's about the art, then in the case of Rockman, the Rockman Complete Works art book. As far as I can tell, vinyl game music isn't that much better quality than CDs and in some cases, worse. And apparently some are basically ripped straight from the game ROM so you're basically paying top dollar for game ROM audio. Vinyl needs a specialised record player instead of a cheap CD player that everyone already has and vinyl has inferior capacity (average 23 minutes per side). So it basically comes down to this: Quote:
One last thing that I'm still unsure of is when it comes to vinyl releases of 8 and 16-bit (and 32-bit) game music, are they actually official and done with the approval of the original composer (with maybe a small bit of the profits sent their way?). Or do they just go through a ROM game list and pick something interesting from it? This particular vinyl seems to have the approval of Capcom so it's got that going for it at least. As for the track list however, I really don't see the point of listening to it. Sometimes I'm in the mood for a Rockman 2 soundtrack. Sometimes I'm in the mood for a Rockman 10 soundtrack. But I cannot imagine a situation where I would want to listen to a few stage themes from each game in the series (except Rockman 3, we hate it for some reason). If you ask me, the track list is just for show/filler. What we're really after is the complete physical package. So, am I the only crazy one here or is everyone else crazy? Note: This post was inspired by the Super Mario RPG BOOTLEG vinyl that sold for 50,000 yen (~$440 USD) recently. Last edited by layzee; Dec 14, 2021 at 02:45 AM. |
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- Official releases of soundtracks that were never released before - Remasters of CD soundtracks that were not too good to begin with (many vinyl releases also include a digital version, which pleases me as well) - Often include unreleased, sometimes never-before-seen official artwork, as well as new pieces of art from obscure/underground titles that I love - Many include newly-made interviews with the composers and even never-released music, like the DATA Discs Shinobi 3 release Aside from that, it's a different media, different experience. I have a couple of VGM vinyl releases that were gifted to me and they are incredibly gorgeous. Some people appreciate the feeling of seeing the spinning record, which are usually very gorgeous and colorful, the nostalgia of listening to music like they did in old times, and so on. Plus, the VGM vinyl community is amazing, super cool people, very humble and eager to helping one another. And yeah, many like to listen to the hole thing from top to bottom. I prefer CDs, I don't have the money to vinyl and even if I had, I would rather get CDs. But I appreciate the releases and I love seeing a game I love getting an official vinyl release. Quote:
The vinyl scene is flooded with scalpers, especially in regards to unofficial releases. Most of the community would never pay that price, but there's always oblivious people willing to pay and that really harms everyone.
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it's like movies suddenly started coming out on LD again, coz they got that special grain you don't find on dvd and blu rays, but it's just gonna be the dvd master ported to an LD to make you think you're getting something unique, but who cares, 90% of the customers don't give a poop about the actual product. (like you said better than me)
i'm not arguing anymore, i mean, whatever floats people's boat, it's their money but i agree with you layzee, and i haven't bought a single "new style" vinyl, not even tape. it's just a trend, like many things, the new variable is that now everybody thinks he's smart and buys to resell - this didn't happen that much in the past, now with interwebs and ebuy everybody wants to be a millionnaire, and low print products help make their dreams come true i'm trying to find a good side to this resurgence but i really don't see any. if you need to buy a vinyl to hear ununsed tracks or see artworks and interviews, then it sucks even more, because it means there is no cd release with the same stuff in it. |
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