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Old Jul 22, 2015, 06:27 PM
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Yes. The back of the picture disc shows the publisher as Spacelab9, then it also has Capcom and Sumthing Else logos, and then in the fine print it has copyright statements from Capcom.

Strange that it's a Hot Topic exclusive.
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Old Jul 22, 2015, 10:09 PM
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And it's already sold out. It was FAST, my goodness...
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Old Jul 23, 2015, 04:12 AM
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Wait a moment, they skipped Mega Man 3?

THEY SKIPPED MEGA MAN 3???
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Old Jul 23, 2015, 10:51 AM
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I wonder which version of Tengu Man they used?
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Old Jul 23, 2015, 05:07 PM
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Added a composer breakdown for the uninformed, but there doesn't seem to be a full one for Mega Man 7.
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Old Jul 23, 2015, 06:12 PM
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Yeah, as far as I'm aware we still don't have a full breakdown for MM7. Our entry for the soundtrack had all the confirmed info as of a few years ago, but I'm not positive that we haven't learned more since then.

Tomozawa said on Twitter that he did Bass's theme.
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Wait a moment, they skipped Mega Man 3?

THEY SKIPPED MEGA MAN 3???
That was my first thought as well. Blasphemy.
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Blasphemy.
Funny, I say the same thing about chiptune vinyl in 20freaking15.
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Old Aug 1, 2015, 06:07 PM
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Is this a new hype/trend? I do see vinyl players being sold in chain stores so the answer must be yes.

http://data-discs.com/

I guess it's not too hard to make, since there isn't much added value (existing music, existing artworks...), and you're sure to sell out everything if you produce a couple thousand pieces.

Now just wait some time and 80% of the copies will be resold to make a profit.
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I agree 100% with what you said, and it's fueled by 1) an appeal to being sort of counter-culture and special, the feeling of specialness enhanced by a large proportion of records released these days being limited editions, and 2) by the provably scientifically false belief that vinyl offers, not only better sound than a CD, but the ultimate in sound quality. Even if the dedicated vinyl audiophiles don't make up a majority, they're such vocal advocates of vinyl that I suspect most who buy records have at least heard that opinion and have incorporated it on some level in their idea of the format, even if they don't think about it much. Some proponents admit it has more distortions but that they just like the sound of them, which is valid and I appreciate the honesty, but to me, if the point is to enjoy analog distortions, go big or go home -- gimme a tape of chiptune music!

I kind of hate that some of these things look to me like attractive things to buy because I'm still susceptible to the idea that it's kinda "neat" and cool to have. I haven't bought any yet, but that would surely change the moment something by Sakimoto came out on vinyl... And of course, I'd be one of those people who wouldn't play it or likely even open it. Grr. (Not that I would resell it and scalp people though, that's not very nice.)
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Old Oct 7, 2015, 07:16 PM
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As a collector's item, sure. As an item that directly supports the artist, sure.

But then there's people...

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... who think you're actually supposed to listen to chiptunes on vinyl. Or worse, those who take advantage of people who think they want to listen to chiptunes on vinyl. They're cashing in on a hipster craze and they're taking your (rich white parents') money all the way to the bank.
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I kind of hate that some of these things look to me like attractive things to buy because I'm still susceptible to the idea that it's kinda "neat" and cool to have. I haven't bought any yet, but that would surely change the moment something by Sakimoto came out on vinyl... And of course, I'd be one of those people who wouldn't play it or likely even open it. Grr. (Not that I would resell it and scalp people though, that's not very nice.)
This is how I view most vinyl things. I don't think I have the ears or equipment to notice any difference, I just buy vinyl as collector items, as things that aren't available otherwise or just out of sheer reverence for the artist or album. I don't even own a record player right now but I'd like to get one soon just to see the difference or maybe actually listen to some of them once and a while.
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I would hate to see what these hipsters would think if they bothered to invest in a halfway decent DAC for their digital music. A cheap vinyl rig probably beats a cheap digital rig (because of the crappy digital conversion), but the cost and effort of upgrading and managing a vinyl rig is a fraction of what it takes to get digital music to sound good.
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if the point is to enjoy analog distortions, go big or go home -- gimme a tape of chiptune music!
I missed the answers to this thread! So... four years late... but Mr. Porky agrees with you.



(And that tape player has stereo speakers, that's more chick magnet than splatter vinyls.)
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I agree 100% with what you said, and it's fueled by 1) an appeal to being sort of counter-culture and special, the feeling of specialness enhanced by a large proportion of records released these days being limited editions, and 2) by the provably scientifically false belief that vinyl offers, not only better sound than a CD, but the ultimate in sound quality. Even if the dedicated vinyl audiophiles don't make up a majority, they're such vocal advocates of vinyl that I suspect most who buy records have at least heard that opinion and have incorporated it on some level in their idea of the format, even if they don't think about it much. Some proponents admit it has more distortions but that they just like the sound of them, which is valid and I appreciate the honesty, but to me, if the point is to enjoy analog distortions, go big or go home -- gimme a tape of chiptune music!
So just to properly clarify, vinyls are a hipster's item? I have come across "vinyl has superior sound quality" opinions but if it is objectively true that vinyl is no better than a CD or the resultant FLAC, then that's pretty damning.

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I guess it's not too hard to make, since there isn't much added value (existing music, existing artworks...), and you're sure to sell out everything if you produce a couple thousand pieces.

Now just wait some time and 80% of the copies will be resold to make a profit.
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... who think you're actually supposed to listen to chiptunes on vinyl. Or worse, those who take advantage of people who think they want to listen to chiptunes on vinyl. They're cashing in on a hipster craze and they're taking your (rich white parents') money all the way to the bank.
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Because vinyls by western startup companies with wix websites and products manufactured in a random Chinese factory found on Aliexpress.
Now, I thought the hipster crowd was supposed to be anti-war and anti-capitalism etc but this sounds to me like a cynical and profitable attempt at extracting maximum value from consumers at minimal cost. That's less "counter-culture" and more "status quo" me-thinks. This is like the Video Game Grading racket (e.g. inflate prices, no added value). If some of the profits are going to the original artist (e.g. Yuzo Koshiro), then I might relax my judgement very slightly.
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extracting maximum value from consumers at minimal cost
I think that's the idea, yes. Also, they are tapping a new market of people who aren't game collectors or even game enthusiasts. I think they are what some people identify as hipsters. Sort of like the aunties that Nintendo targeted with the Wii and some of its, ehr, games.

Here some articles, not necessarily accurate, and not necessarily my point of view:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/laureno.../#458a01021bc8

https://hometheaterreview.com/remind...l-still-sucks/

https://qz.com/103785/hipsters-are-b...ening-to-them/
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vinyl if done properly is definitely a better sound but is an acquired taste. I’m not sure if the warmth of a vinyl pressing is really going to shine through on 8/16 bit soundtracks though.

As far as fads go, vinyl is in a fad resurgence as a collectors item that a lot of younger people buy at places like hot topic and urban outfitters to frame and hang in their rooms. That’s the fad part of it. But vinyl collectors and enthusiasts have been around forever and I’m sure will continue to be. I don’t really think vgm vinyls fall into this category though.
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"Better" is subjective here. There is indeed a warmer sound to it, but that's not necessarily what the music was meant to sound like. It's a colored sound and some people may prefer that colored sound, but to say that's better or higher fidelity is false. (Also if you really wanted to, you could master a digital album to sound that way)

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Isn't there an issue with vinyls if the source material is digital, and then moved onto vinyl which is analog?

Also, are the old GMO vinyls and these new trendy vinyls comparable? I mean in terms of vinyl materials used, manufacturing process, and also in terms of source files/recording and transfer to vinyl?

I can't find any info on the websites of these post 2014 vinyls regarding their work process.

All the << vinyl vs. cd vs. tape quality >> threads I've seen turned into Vietnam wars
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Isn't there an issue with vinyls if the source material is digital, and then moved onto vinyl which is analog?
There's only an issue if it's not mastered properly for vinyl imo.

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The GMO titles are barely comparable with each other. It seems the contents on those depend on what company they were working with. Some of them are straight up recordings of someone who's playing the game with the sound effects on top of the music while others are only background music.

Source material for new records vary. Some labels are provided with the material from the companies, some extract it themselves from the game hardware. Some labels have in-house mastering engineers, some use freelance mastering engineers, some allow the pressing plants to do the mastering.

Manufacturing process can differ between labels. Some work with multiple companies to work on different stages of manufacturing, others work only with the pressing plant (who in most cases can handle all parts of manufacturing themselves). In most cases the labels will handle the mastering themselves or in collaboration with a mastering studio and then leave the rest of the manufacturing to the pressing plant.

The actual vinyl material used between GMO and now is likely identical (or close) apart colored vinyl being much more popular now. I imagine the pressing process itself is mostly unchanged. Most pressing plants are still running on old machinery from back in the golden age of vinyl since production of new parts is something that only started up again in recent years.

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Some labels are more transparent about the process than others and in most cases you'd find the info on the actual release rather than the website as the process can differ even between releases. And sometimes, as you note, the info simply isn't made available for whatever reason.
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