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Although it does say DJCD 2 in Lantis website, the Cover is says Radio “Cross Days” CD vol2 ~クロス・妄想・デイズ~ so I went with that.
I am having trouble what the 妄想 name. Is it mouso/moso? I had thought it would follow vol1 character Otome http://vgmdb.net/album/18648 but there doesn't seem to be any character named that. Other changes, Included in Category entry, Game to go along with Radio/Drama. I might be wrong on this though? Since it's not a self-contained Radio/Drama without a product representation. See below. Changed Products represented from "Radio Cross Days" to simply Cross Days. Since the product is representing and is about the PC game Cross Days from 0verflow. Included Platforms represented entry to "PC" since that's the content of the game that is played on. See http://vgmdb.net/album/15288 for the OST. PM if discussion is needed. Please note I also did some minor changes in http://vgmdb.net/album/18648 for Vol.1 to be consistent. Last edited by ako; Jan 31, 2013 at 05:49 AM. |
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normally, we don't associate anime/game with a radio program
we just use radio/drama category because the radio program is a radio program and is not present in the game or anime since it's something that is released out of the actual products even if it uses the same cast and that basically it's supposed to be related (in a certain way) to the story (note: it's mousou or moso with macrons on o but not mouso) |
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It's not a stand alone radio program that is not associated with any other product. It's based from an already established product, thus extending that product line for the creators/company catalog.
It's even more so apparent when the cast of characters/seiyuu's continue their role and talk about the brand and among other things. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to just think of it as a stand alone product when that is not even the case. It would be more accurate in that manner not how it was before the edit. Now I am not so sure on this example. Say if Square Enix had a radio program for let's say FINAL FANTASY XIII cast members. Would that be placed in it's own product line (Radio FINAL FANTASY XIII) when knowingly it's extending both Square Enix's catalog and FINAL FANTASY XIII franchise brand? If the decision would be to do just that and willingly ignore such common sense then *throws hands in air* do whatever 'cause it'd baffle me. The macron had it just over the first o not on the second thus mouso was one of my assumptions. |
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One reason why I'm not fully convinced by "seiyuu-san still taking about the original game" criteria however is what if they're not talking about the anime at all (Yuko Ogura's True Love Story radio was apparently such a radio, with only the connection to the game was the usage of the game's soundtrack). It'd be seen as a standalone product, and there should be many gray cases between them. Judging by how much they're talking about the game wouldn't be a cut-and-dry standard. Quote:
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While I do not know the example of the radio program of the seiyuu you mentioned I can't deny that there are indeed some that have little to no mention of the product they represent. However the issue is considering that one would have to listen to every single radio program track just to make that assumption correct. Quote:
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Anyways, the product is representing what the company chooses to allow be done under their brand so I do not even understand why it would be called something else that doesn't exist as a stand-alone product. Otherwise they wouldn't name it under said title, same characters, etc, etc to be in their product line simply based on the genre and/or assumption of not being in-character. Last edited by ako; Feb 2, 2013 at 09:54 PM. |
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So if I understand correctly, is the real difference of opinion is whether Radio Cross Heart qualifies as a product for our definition? Let's examine some of our past precedents.
So, we need to figure out where this lies in the spectrum. Is it more like Radio ToHeart2, or should we consider it more like a bonus content that is meant to support the game. Note that it is possible that the area is grey enough that we have to come up with a creative solution. |
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bah commercials aren't products
they only exist to make a product sell |
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Secret Squirrel in a post you made here http://vgmdb.net/forums/showthread.php?t=9330
A franchise has already been established or will eventually such as those that begin as radio or/and drama to advertise the anime, light novel, or/and visual novel for said product. Quote:
On a interesting point that came to mind from that post above is cross-reference between a a anime series that tries it's hand to a game and vice-versa. This complicates matters such as with Bakemonogatari's vocal and OST albums and the game OST from here: http://vgmdb.net/album/36663 it's not linked or cross-referenced in it's created page either http://vgmdb.net/product/1756 or is it strictly to point out it's animation solely? Since many anime to game and vice-versa don't have many sequels. I don't know much about ToHeart 2 but I don't see any difference from what the owners of that franchise is trying to do from the many others that follow that pattern. Also that wiki page still has a link to the original content unlike many albums here as noted elsewhere which Related Albums becomes a big help for old and new users. Quote:
Nobuo's Uemtasu's Phantasmagoria http://vgmdb.net/album/1858 is labeled not as a Original Work but for FINAL FANTASY for simply having 1 single track for his connection to the series. Far stretch is it not? How is that any different from seiyuu's contributing via their voice and persona for the audience to get to know them? They are both performing and advertising what they are involved with. Last edited by ako; Feb 18, 2013 at 06:34 PM. |
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Again - yes, it's enough that one, single track (where everything else could be original work) is from a game/animation and the whole album will get game/animation category along with game/animation title in the represented products field.
Bakemonogatari Portable is a game and not animated series so it doesn't belong at http://vgmdb.net/product/1756 (yeah, because this page is only for the anime) A new product page could be created for the game though, under Monogatari series franchise. |
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