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Organizing the addition of anime albums
This thread will do for now, pending a restructuring of the discussion forums (most likely I'll move artist/organization/event discussion up one forum level). I'll also have to modify the code to create discussion threads for albums in the appropriate parent forum.
Anyway, since anime album submissions are rapidly increasing, here's where we attempt to bring some order to the process. Ideally, submissions should be made by people who own a physical copy of the album for maximum accuracy, since that's one of the main goals of this site. Not to say that you can't piece together information from online research, if you can demonstrate that you've done the homework. To start off, I'll be calling dibs on the Ah! My Goddess franchise, since I own most of the albums. Compiling a list soon. |
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I just wanted to say that I really like the new anime additions to the DB, especially since this increases the amount of Yoko Kanno albums a _lot_!
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I'm very pleased that VGM/AMdb is headed this direction. Can't wait to see how it develops and what new people it'll attract.
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I'm stoked.
I don't legitimately own any anime releases unfortunately so my help will be somewhat limited, but I'll try and pitch in where I can. I'm also trying to get hold of a big list of releases from someone. I'll post here if/when I do.
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Haha, I feel like I gave it a small push for people to add more. I know it already had like ~980 before, though. I hope it spreads out to more people to help out, though.
With so many not here, it'd be a hassle for a limited amount of people to be the only submitters, but I guess for completeness sake, it may be hard for that. I'm looking forward to seeing how this changes vgmdb (even if it upsets the enthusiast diehard vgm fans around (lol)). |
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We are going to be very busy once the word gets around that we are populating the anime albums. I think that staff and experienced submitters are going to have to provide some mentoring for new submitters. Maybe it makes sense to coordinate that here so that we aren't all sending Private Messages to the same member.
The crux of this is quickly identifying those who are good and making them better, while weeding out those who don't have the mettle, and asking them to sit on the sidelines, at least until most of the popular stuff is done. I also want to add a couple of new staff members who are devoted to anime music. |
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I'm all for more anime albums but I just hope the focus of this site doesn't become so anime that vgm contributions halt...
It may be worth to alter a little the color for promo+anime btw. And some warning/guidelines to new users about romaji/english tracklists taken indiscriminately from the interwebs (not only because of quality concerns, but also permissions and stuff). |
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What color modifications are you recommending? I'm not a big fan of the Anime Green, though I don't really like the Doujin Brown either. |
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I like the multiple homepages idea a lot, specially if you separate filters (say I have filters on but I want to quickly check an anime album without tweaking them, I could use the anime homepage).
And maybe now it's a good time to look into per-track credits, before +10000 anime albums are added and you have to go back and 'fix' them... I guess darker/variation of yellow or such so people without filters can tell anime promos apart. But on a second thought there are too many colors already, and new anime visitors may be confused by the Anime Green. Perhaps we could discuss colors along with the current release types. |
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I was thinking about that last night. I don't know if this is possible, but I had an idea where if you go to vgmdb.net it would list only game related sountracks. If you go to another url (some animeost related one, obviously) it would only list anime related soundtracks. It would be the same site, but with different default filters on each url. Again, no idea if this is possible just an idea I had.
Now as for submissions, I'm all for quality control, but where do you draw the line? Do you want accuracy down to the composer, arranger etc. (The basic stuff) Or do you want it down to who did flutes on track 17? |
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I can understand why some people find that information useful, but it's all about priorities to me. I don't think that information should be considered mandatory and while there is no rules saying it is, it certainly feels that way.
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Yeah, providing as much credit and information on an album as you can is encouraged.
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Eventually we'd want information filters on the album page level as well.
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Talk about a sudden stream of anime soundtracks out of nowhere. Guess this gives me a reason to stick around the office to scan the albums that I do have and I'm really looking forward to this taking off.
The biggest thing that I'm struggling with is the notes section since it's never clear sometimes how it should be formatted (and for that matter, I don't know Japanese) so a bit of guidance there could be useful. I've mostly been looking at other albums in the database and using that as a guideline, but if there's a method that should be followed, let me know so I don't pick up any bad submission habits.
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Blah: How should we classify Image albums? As far as I can see we need a new option for this since none of the existing ones feel quite right. Last edited by seanne; May 6, 2010 at 03:37 PM. |
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I was thinking further about this, since I woke up early and couldn't fall back asleep.
I think we need to preserve our brands, and keep the presentation of VGMdb separated from VGMdb-Anime, but yet under the same umbrella. This really boils down to having separate front pages with separate filters. Guests who visit the VGMdb front page will only see updates and news about the VGM portion of the site. Likewise, visitors to VGMdb-Anime only see anime stuff. The filters are set in each spot to exclude everything else. Content is not duplicated. A VGM visitor and an Anime visitor see the same album pages, etc. Discographies and Labels are never filtered, so visitors can eventually work their way onto pages from other genres. It should hopefully be clear that these won't show up in searches or on the frontpage. However, album search results and album browsing are still filtered just like now, but your filter is based on which site "portal" you visited last. You just have two filters now, one for VGMdb and one for VGMdb-anime (and we could further restrict it, so that only the category is duplicated, but the rest of the settings are shared.) You can modify these as you wish, and can turn on the anime albums at VGMdb if you'd like. The default when you start as a new user though, should just be VGM. There may be some flaws in this idea, so we should discuss it more. |
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Yeah, to build upon SS' idea, here's what I'm thinking for the homepage - split it into
http://vgmdb.net/game http://vgmdb.net/anime http://vgmdb.net/home (for agnostics) This is the perfect time to get rid of our smelly /db/main.php address, too. |
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Have you thought about giving doujin its own portal? I think we already have quite a few people who have little interest in this part of the database, as well as many who are mainly interested in it. I personally see vgm, anime and doujin (especially when you consider the j-core stuff we list) as three equally separate subcategories.
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We also could make separate branding, subdomains, or even domains while maintaining everything in the same database... Similar to some other sites.
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I don't think I'm the final decision maker, though I would lean towards it. I think there are a lot of things to work out first.
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flag icons would be a option too, right?
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Concerning Immortal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immortal_(film) What about "Werner - Beinhart!". It's a german production and the movie alternates between live-action scenes and animated content. The two scene types never intertwine though, in the sense that you've animated content mixed with live-action cast (at least I don't remember that). Looks like the english Wiki also has an article ready: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_(comics) |
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OK, here's the large list of anime-related releases I mentioned. hopefully useful to people. it will certainly take a long time to add all these...
http://www.shakal.net/lunar/temp/animeosts.txt
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Is that Sonryu's list? It's got about 7000 entries. I'll throw out there that I think that once you count everything the way we do for VGM, there will be at least 20,000 entries.
That estimate is still a little low, given that we've got around 16,000 VGM entries, and anime music has been around longer. |
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That list is huge. Is that someones collection? but yes there is a lot to add. Especially when you consider all those OPs and EDs, too.
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SS: yeah I realise it isn't all the anime albums ever, but it's a starting point, ne?
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