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Old Dec 15, 2009, 10:53 PM
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Why is the composer for this listed by artist names and not "Falcom Sound Team jdk?" It should be Falcom Sound Team jdk, since that's what it says in the booklet and it's misleading if the LOH VI soundtracks don't appear under a search for Falcom Sound Team jdk.

And for that matter, where is the proof that those listed members worked on this album?

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Old Dec 15, 2009, 11:35 PM
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I realize now that the names listed were likely taken and known from the ending credits of the game. Still, "Falcom Sound Team jdk" should be included somewhere in the composer credits, since that is the official title of the composer team and who is credited in the soundtrack. Those names are just the breakdown.

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Old Dec 16, 2009, 10:38 AM
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Ideally, if we had a flag to denote credited/uncredited artists, we could make Falcom Sound Team jdk as the credited artist AND the individual composers as uncredited artists (while they're credited in the game, they are uncredited on the actual album).
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Good thing you bumped this thread; the new "group with unit" feature should take care of the credits issue =)
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Regarding the credits: the PSP version ending credits list Hayato Sonoda and Yukihiro Jindo as the only composers. So what's the deal?
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Old Apr 21, 2014, 08:40 PM
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That's odd, but this CD is for the PC version anyways, since that is what the CD is based off of. Wataru Ishibashi & Takahide Murayama were probably removed from the PSP credits since they are no longer part of Falcom Sound Team jdk.
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Do any of you Falcom experts know what synthesizer the team used for this game/other various Falcom games during the same era?
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Old Oct 31, 2015, 06:33 AM
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Unofficial breakdown


First, I'm assuming that the composers are indeed Hayato Sonoda, Wataru Ishibashi, and Takahide Murayama. I am also assuming that Yukihiro Jindo had no involvement in the composition (though the role would probably be clarified if we knew of any PSP-exclusive music).

Second, there are two principal themes in the score. I'll list each, and which tracks they show up in:
1) The "Main Theme", aka "The Whereabouts of Light"
Disc 1 Track 01, 1.02, 2.20, 2.21, 2.23, 2.24, 2.25, 2.26

2) I've nicknamed this one "The Theme of Everything" (TTOE). It shows up during scenes related to the ancient ruins and secret society.
1.01, 1.08, 1.31 (major key, kind of tongue in cheek really), 2.04, 2.08 (passing reference), 2.15, 2.16, 2.17

There are also some minor themes/motifs that recur:
a) the Royal Castle (2.12) is arranged/referenced in 1.15, 1.27, 2.12
b) the intro of 1.29 is from 1.20 (boss theme)
c) 2.01, 2.07, 2.17, and 2.19 share motifs

Third, this time my breakdown is focused on groups rather than individual tracks or themes. I believe the three composers could have fluidly arranged each other's work. I have no idea who composed each theme. Complicating matters, TTOE shows up in later Trails games. I don't know if the main theme does. This is only an issue because, of the three composers of FC, only Sonoda has continued composing for the series. He could very well be the original composer of the theme, but then again, it could just be that it's a theme now owned by Falcom. Shrug. It would be interesting to know if these themes originated in earlier LOH games, whose scores I have not listened to yet.



Group A (main theme and misc. stuff--no clue on the composer, but the arrangement for many suggests Ishibashi)
1.01 Sora no Kiseki (Has Main theme and TTOE. Arrangement style is very sophisticated, so probably the Group D composer.)
1.02 Whereabouts of the Stars - Harmonica Short Ver. (probably Ishibashi)
1.22 The Disappearing Star
2.20 Whereabouts of the Stars - Harmonica Long Ver. (probably Ishibashi)
2.21 Confession (probably Ishibashi)
2.23 Whereabouts of the Stars (almost certainly Ishibashi)
2.24 I Feel Like I could Dance with the Wind (probably Group D composer)
2.25 Whereabouts of the Stars Full Ver.
2.26 Whereabouts of the Stars Full Ver. (Less Vocals)



Group B (almost certainly Hayato Sonoda based on what we know of his work in other OSTs--thank you Falcom experts for your insights in other threads)
1.07 Defeat!!
1.10 A Cat Relaxing in the Sun
1.12 In my Heart
1.13 How to Walk in Liberl (actually unsure on this one, thoughts?)
1.14 Commercial City of Bose
1.15 It's not Easy to Guard the Borderline
1.19 We are the Capua Family!
1.20 To be Suggestive (boss theme. I struggle with this one because it's got hints of the other battle themes, but it's just different enough. Thoughts?)
1.24-1.31 (These are the event BGM that play during the play. Falcom was clever with this, having a single calliope-like keyboard instrument play the incidental music which was/is pretty common accompaniment for low-budget stage work)
1.33 Pride of Liberl (Royal Castle arrangement)
2.01 Creeping Crisis
2.04 Black Orbment
2.07 Engaged People in Secret Manuevers
2.10 Gran Arena
2.12 Royal Castle
2.13 Recapture
2.16 Ancient Makes
2.17 Those Who Protected Their Greatest Treasure
2.19 Release from the Spell, and...



Group C (Probably Wataru Ishibashi based on what we know about his work.)
1.32 Don't Let Him Go!
2.03 Studio City of Zeiss
2.11 Gran Arena
2.14 Silver Will
2.15 The Fading Light of the Sealed Land



Group D (This composer has a striking style--very crisp, sophisticated arrangement; great sequencing technique, very natural, not so tightly quantized (like Sonoda), skilled used of velocity; harmony, instrumentation, and voicing very rich and colorful. I'm certain the same person composed all of what's listed below. Though it's certainly NOT Sonoda, it could very well be Ishibashi. The Ishibashi tracks of Group C are in a very distinct style, but doesn't necessarily mean Ishibashi isn't the Group D composer. Then again, we know next to nothing about Murayama. The process of elimination would tell us that he is the one. It's interesting to note that this group contains almost all the field and dungeon themes and 3 of 5 town themes.)
1.03 The Byway of Departure
1.04 Provincial City of Rolent
1.05 Rock on the Road
1.06 Sophisticated Fight
1.08 Tower of the Four Wheels (uses TTOE theme)
1.09 Under the Moonlight
1.11 Secret Green Passage
1.18 The Steel Floor Blocking the Way
1.21 Pinch!!
1.23 Seaport City of Ruan
2.02 Wandering in the Darkness
2.05 Peace Given by Darkness
2.06 Leiston Fortress
2.08 Capital City Grancell
2.17 Let's be Lively
2.22 Decision to Leave



Group E (still undecided)
1.16 Amber Love - Hum Ver. and 1.17 Lute Ver. (Not related to main theme, but donNote that the guitar is very realistically sequenced.)
2.09 Amber Love - Piano Ver.



On a personal note, I just have to know who the Group D composer is. He is amazing. It's definitely not Sonoda, and unfortunately he is the only one of the trio who continued to compose for the series. I'm not looking forward to SC's soundtrack nearly as much knowing that whoever this extremely talented composer is, he's not involved.
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Changed "Whereabouts of the Stars" to "The Whereabouts of Light", as that is what it's called in-game (via the XSEED Games Steam release). Also changed "Gran Arena" to "Grand Arena" for the same reason.
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Ah yes, this thread. I'll revisit this eventually to clarify the breakdown further. Please excuse me while I respond to myself with some new knowledge:

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[b]Complicating matters, TTOE shows up in later Trails games. I don't know if the main theme does.
Yes, the main theme recurs in SC and TC.

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This is only an issue because, of the three composers of FC, only Sonoda has continued composing for the series.
This turned out to be false. Ishibashi and Murayama also composed for SC, but were left uncredited possibly because they left Falcom before it was released or shortly after.

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It would be interesting to know if these themes originated in earlier LOH games, whose scores I have not listened to yet.
No, these themes don't appear in previous LOH games.

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I just have to know who the Group D composer is. He is amazing. It's definitely not Sonoda,
It's totally Murayama, and he did have a hand in SC.
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Now that this thread got bumped, I remembered that Jindo said in his blog he ***composed*** (作曲) "Amber Amour" in the same mood as Rimsky-Korsakov's "Scheherazade".

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11年前、R.コルサコフのシェヘラザードの気分で作曲した「琥珀の愛」が
Which is weird because he isn't an internal Falcom employee, so it looks like Falcom's been willing to bring on freelancers for composing roles. I wouldn't be surprised if Singa did actually compose music for Tokyo Xanadu, Ys VIII and Cold Steel III (e.g. "Raging Rush", "Red Line -021-", "Night Survivor", etc).

(I think he means the "Piano Ver.". Not sure if he arranged the other two.)

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No, these themes don't appear in previous LOH games.
There is proto-"Silver Will", though.
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Finally, full credits! We were actually a bit off base, as it turns out:

Hayato Sonoda
Disc 1:
01 Trails in the Sky (collab with Ishibashi, outsourced arranger)
02 The Whereabouts of Light Harmonica short Ver.
04 Provincial City of Rolent
07 Defeat!!
09 Under The Moonlight
10 A Cat Relaxing in the Sun
13 How to Walk in Liberl
14 Commercial City of Bose
15 It's not Easy to Guard the Borderline
20 To be Suggestive
24 Suite White Flower Madrigal - Princess's Troubles
25 Suite White Flower Madrigal - Knights' Grief
26 Suite White Flower Madrigal - Each One's Expectations
27 Suite White Flower Madrigal - Castle
28 Suite White Flower Madrigal - Colisseum
29 Suite White Flower Madrigal - Duel
30 Suite White Flower Madrigal - Princess's Death
31 Suite White Flower Madrigal - Finale
32 Don't Let Him Go!
33 Pride of Liberl
Disc 2:
01 Creeping Crisis
02 Wandering in the Darkness
07 Engaged People in Secret Maneuvers
12 Royal Castle
13 Recapture
17 Those Who Protect the Greatest Treasure
19 Release from the Spell, and...
20 The Whereabouts of Light Harmonica long Ver.
21 Confession
23 The Whereabouts of Light (arranged by Wada)
25 The Whereabouts of Light - Full Ver. (arranged by Wada)
26 The Whereabouts of Light - Full Ver. (Less Vocal) (arranged by Wada)


Wataru Ishibashi
Disc 1:
01 Trails in the Sky (collab with Sonoda, outsourced arranger)
03 The Byway of Departure
05 Rock on the Road
06 Sophisticated Fight
08 Tower of Four-Wheels
11 Secret Green Passage
12 In my Heart
18 The Steel Floor Blocking the Way
19 We are the Capua Family!
22 The Disappearing Star
23 Seaport City of Ruan
Disc 2:
03 Studio City of Zeiss
04 Black Orbment
05 Peace Given by Darkness
06 Leiston Fortress
08 Royal Capital of Grancel
10 Grand Arena
11 Challenger Invited
14 Silver Will
15 Hollow Light of the Sealed Land (outsourced arranger)
16 Ancient Makes
24 Feelings Soar With the Wind


Takahide Murayama
Disc 1:
21 Pinch!!
Disc 2:
18 Let's be Lively


Maiko Hattori
Disc 2:
22 Decision to Leave


Yukihiro Jindo
Disc 1:
16 Amber Love - Hum Ver.
17 Amber Love - Lute Ver.
Disc 2:
09 Amber Love - Piano Ver.

The unidentified outsourced arranger here is presumably Jindo. My already high appreciation for Ishibashi has gone way up after getting these credits. I'm very surprised at how little ended up actually being Murayama/Yanagi's.

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Finally, full credits! We were actually a bit off base, as it turns out:
Out of curiosity, where'd you find these?
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Out of curiosity, where'd you find these?
It was leaked by a former Falcom employee and posted on this site: https://www65.atwiki.jp/falcom_staff/pages/1.html
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