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We'll be opening up a broader discussion on tracklists soon, and localizations (including those of English tracklists) will be one of the things dicsussed.
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Well according to Kaleb.G, there's going to be a new track database or something, so... cool :) Looking forward to seeing what's in store!
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Interesting, none the less, this appears to be more like the way actually some playlist used to be managed for some albums... when there were more than one playlist in english.
Some Final Fantasy albums have an english list, and a English one according iTunes. Despite that, all those were just official after all. Now, I winder if with this addition of the database, we will see "Corrected English" playlists, or even "Translated to another Languaje" playlists, divided of course of the official ones. |
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Does anyone else find it weird that small guitar solo was added to X6's "Opening Stage"? I took a listen to the music on the game disc and it's there, and it's not on the box like it was said earlier. I mean we're talking about a game that spent a mere week being translated for the for the NSTC region (rushed out just in time for Christmas!!!) such a small change to the music seems odd.
Is this change just in the NTSC version of the game? Often times the developer will leave additional, non-accessible data on disc so you think the other version would appear amongst the data (like X4's Japanese pre battle quotes - Iris' sounds so drunk - lol!) but it doesn't. Additionally, I was thinking, can't we unoffically credit Tanaka with "Dynamo" and "X vs. Zero" since they reappear in X6? If they were done by Naoya Kamisaka or Takuya Miyawaki, they would have been mentioned in X6's credit roll no? Edit: HAHAHA, actually Tanaka is credited TWICE in the credits! Can't believe this didn't lead to the Tanaka=Akemi connection earlier. (Skip to 1:57) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyLgf...om=PL&index=36 Last edited by Brad Evans; Feb 26, 2010 at 10:36 PM. |
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BIG EDIT (05/22): Naoto is only credited for music in X5, meaning your previous point is valid, as everything he did in X6 is attributed to Akemi Kimura, his alias, and not Naoto Tanaka. Therefore, Naoto's presence in X6's credits can only mean that he did, in fact, compose Dynamo and X vs Zero. Also, the Sound Designer for Rockman X was ELF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RAueyBtJWs at 2:38 ELF = Tadashi Joukagi http://www.mobygames.com/game/genesi...dition/credits --->Street Fighter II: Special Champion Edition Last edited by kyubihanyou; May 21, 2010 at 10:08 PM. |
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The Mega Man 10 Soundtrack makes me think Yuko Takehara did Storm Eagleed. We'll have to wait until the credit spread and see who composed Wily Stage 1 for that game. If so, it wouldn't be the first time she re-used a previous composition elsewhere.
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I've since changed Spark Mandriller to Setsuo, as it sounds more like it belongs with that set of songs. Also added Boss 1, Boss 2, Stage Select 2, Sigma Stage 2, Sigma Stage 4, Sigma Rebirth, Sigma 2nd and Cast Roll, making the count 22-5-2-2-2.
Looks good to me. X3 Arrange Version (Lord help me) NOTE: These are UNOFFICIAL [Bold = Confirmed, Italics = Implied] Toshihiko Horiyama: Opening, Title, Opening Stage, Pass Word, Stage Select 1, Explose Horneck Stage, Frozen Buffalio Stage, Gravity Beetbood Stage, Acid Seaforce Stage, Electro Namazuros Stage, Scissors Shrimper Stage, Vava Stage, Boss 1, Boss 2, Stage Clear, Stage Select 2, Doppler Stage 1, Doppler Stage 2, Doppler Stage Boss, Sigma 1st, Sigma 2nd, Doppler Demo, Megaman X3 Opening Theme, Megaman X3 Ending Theme ---> Sound more like Toshihiko's than Shusaku's Shusaku Uchiyama: Opening Stage Demo, Explose Horneck Demo, Frozen Buffalio Demo, Gravity Beetbood Demo, Acid Seaforce Demo, Electro Namazuros Demo, Scissors Shrimper Demo, Screw Masaider Demo, Shining Tigerd Demo, Demo -->New compositions + Shusaku was only one known prior to album release = Logical explanation Yoshino Aoki: Zero, Screw Masaider Stage, Shining Tigerd Stage, Dr. Cain Demo, Dr. Right Demo, Ending 2, Cast Roll Makoto Tomozawa: Ending 1 Opening: drums, flute Title: guitar wail, drum'n'bass, cymbals Pass Word: percussion, vibes Opening Stage: bleeps, heavy percussion, background wails, synthesizer, piano --->Yoshino? Makoto? Zero: clarinet, drum'n'bass, low synthesizer, cymbals Stage Select 1: heavy bass, heavy synthesizer Explose Horneck Stage: heavy bass, (unique) bells, vibes, trumpet, (unique) synthesizer Frozen Buffalio Stage: slower; low guitar, bells, vibes, percussion, environmental, horn Gravity Beetbood Stage: vibes, guitar, percussion, high-pitched background Acid Seaforce Stage: jazzy guitar, drum'n'bass, vibes, high-pitched background melody Electro Namazuros Stage: guitar, high-pitched background, bells, percussion--->getting an X4 vibe from this one (Toshihiko Horiyama) Scissors Shrimper Stage: heavy guitar and bass; synth background Screw Masaider Stage: percussion, techno, vibes, low guitar Shining Tigerd Stage: low guitar, vibes, environmental, bells Vava Stage: vibes, drum'n'bass, techno, bells --->X4 Vibe Boss 1: heavy percussion, techno, guitar Boss 2: heavy guitar, violin (high-pitched background), cymbals Stage Clear: Percussion, low bass, whaling guitar Stage Select 2: Percussion, cymbals, ominous background, synthesizer Doppler Stage 1: Cymbals, synthesizer, low guitar, percussion Doppler Stage 2: Techno, ominous background, guitar wails, "choir," piano, violin ----> Makoto? Yoshino? Doppler Stage Boss: Cymbals, percussion, ominous background, vibes Sigma 1st: heavy percussion, techno Sigma 2nd: heavy percussion, panflute, synthesizer Doppler Demo: Ominous background, heavy percussion, cymbals Dr. Cain Demo: Low guitar, "xylophone" background, trumpets Dr. Right Demo: Techno Ending 1: piano, bells, low trumpet/woodwind, synthesizer--->Makoto Ending 2: percussion, trumpet, low guitar, cymbals Cast Roll: drum'n'bass, cymbals, trumpets, high-pitched background ANOTHER EDIT: Previously, Brad discussed that the Saturn version of Eregion had a special intro. Well's here's the others like it: Frost Kibatodos Stage 2 (special intro like Eregion) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=106jztmmEnQ at 5:34 Stage Select 2 (same melody, but the "squirming sound" is heard at different parts during the first half of the track.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmwLUjhZ0Zw at 4:17 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJjTi_mDDeI -----> compare to start of this Last edited by kyubihanyou; Dec 3, 2010 at 01:25 PM. |
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I've found this little bit of info, from an anonymous troper:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUBQOmnU8bM It makes sense to me because it was used in the very beginning of Mega Man Xtreme/Rockman X: Cyber Mission whilst "Zero" was used within Hunter Base (basically when Zero was around). Aside from that, it does have that "variable" sense while "Zero" is "absolute." Furthermore, I figured "Ending" from X1 to have also been done by Makoto Tomozawa because it is also a theme that relates to X. |
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@Raizen1984
The reason why Dynamo and X vs. Zero can be specifically linked to Naoto Tanaka is because of the in-game credits for both games. X5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLe35S7nkY4#t=2m37s Sound: Naoto Tanaka, Takuya Miyawaki with Shinya, Naoya Kamisaka Sound Effect: Toshio Kajino, Atsuko Fujitani X6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFqfkBwlO-M#t=1m54s Sound: Tosio Kajino, Jyunko Hujitani, Akemi Kimura, Naoto Tanaka Since the OST only credits Kimura for X6, any chance the two poorly translated sound effect contributors had at contributing something music-related is zero. The X5 credits also indicate that Tanaka didn't do any sound effects; just music. Combine that with the fact that Tanaka and Kimura are the same person, and it basically breaks down to this: "Akemi Kimura" = Naoto Tanaka's X6 work. "Naoto Tanaka" = Naoto Tanaka's X5 work, which only applies to the two returning tracks from X5: Dynamo and X vs. Zero. The way X6's credits are formatted are also generally the same as those in the two Mega Man Xtreme games. The text sounds (among many others) are the same between both of these games. Xtreme 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfcUSIGP4bg#t=5m37s) ---> Sound: Toshio Kajino, Saori Maeda Xtreme 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BObjFoud8AM) [at 0:34] ---> Sound: Toshio, Mitsuhiko Therefore, all of Xtreme 1's arrangements were done by Saori Maeda (aka Saori Utsumi) and all of Xtreme 2 was arranged by Mitsuhiko Takano ... As for the difference in order in the X5 credits and the inclusion of Shinya Okada, it does not affect me too badly. Having Shinya's techno vibe in cooperation with Miyawaki increases the probability of the latter having done the two tracks I've associated with him, and another key point is the fact that NONE of the three have "(CAPCOM)" written next to them on Booklet Back. Whereas X5 was made back when Tanaka and Miyawaki worked for Capcom [The Kimura alias came with Naoto's move to Valuewave (X6-X8) along with Miyawaki (X7)], Kamisaka was ALWAYS outside of Capcom, so he was listed last in-game, but his position here still means that he was second-most in contribution to the OST after Tanaka. Therefore, since Tanaka had the guitar-representative rock style (i.e. Opening Stage Zero), Kamisaka must have the nearly-as-prominent synthesizer style (i.e. Opening Stage X). Last edited by kyubihanyou; Feb 8, 2011 at 05:33 PM. |
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Sorry, only just now saw your post.
It would have been a sound theory if Kimura and Tanaka were different people, but they're not. It's odd that he's listed twice, but Capcom has never been the best with credits; we all know this. It does not prove that X vs Zero and Dynamo are Tanaka's work, because this theory assumes no one has ever been left uncredited in a game's staff roll before. Just leave it alone until we get some actual proof. I'm getting sick of having to clean up all this speclation. |
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@Raizen
That's just it; he's listed twice. For what purpose would Tanaka be listed when Kimura's doing the music for this game? It would be harder to associate Tanaka to those tracks (instrumental similarities aside) if he weren't listed at all. Why do you think Tanaka's there? |
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As an aside, why is it impossible that the original composer was uncredited? This would make some sense if they weren't originally Capcom employees, like how Yamashita wasn't given credit for X3. |
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Is it known who arranged tracks 26~31 on disc 5?
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They should all be composed and arranged by the lead person from each game.
X3: Toshihiko Horiyama X4: Toshihiko Horiyama X5: Naoto Tanaka The same can be said of the overseas themes for Mega Man 8 (Uchiyama), Legends and Legends 2 (Tomozawa), X7 (Komiyama), Command Mission (Okada) and Maverick Hunter X (Hasegawa) Last edited by kyubihanyou; May 24, 2011 at 05:23 PM. |
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More assumptions, or do you have some actual direct evidence to back this up this time?
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I was thinking, should we mention that the music on the X4 disc is derived from the PlayStation version of the game? The tunes in the PlayStation version have definite endings (like the ones present on the disc) while those in the Saturn edition loop and therefore would fade out if they were used as the source (which isn't the case).
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Someone I know was having problems parsing the composer info here, so I reorganized the notes a bit. Hopefully it's a little more readable now.
Makoto Tomozawa was previous credited for Vava 1 & 2 from MMX (1.05 & 1.06) based on this: Quote:
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Hey guy's, I have a personal theory I want to share.
There's a chance that Toshihiko Horiyama compose the "[Inset boss name] DEMO" Track's in the arrangement version of X3? I think in this after ear "STAGE START" from X4. <--- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyZ7ss7JpzM Maybe It's just me, but... the first 3 seconds of that track appear in the middle (more of less) of the "[Inset boss name] DEMO" track's of X3 ARRANGE. <--- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZoqPanZ1K8 I mean, maybe it's a previous version of what becomes STAGE START in X4. And about the weird spelling of the tracks: They are CORRECT, at least with the japanese version's of the games: http://youtu.be/0GRMRBrF42k?t=5m3s <---X1 http://youtu.be/IW0tPmPGBxw?t=6m36s <---X2 http://youtu.be/FcnFytsnpr0?t=6m42s <---X3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNojiFOIDOg <---X4 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For X5 <--- http://youtu.be/glyDDF5fSdE?t=20s & X6 http://youtu.be/yNoqiQQCV2o?t=10s The japanese version's show the names in japanese. The localized version of X6 have the same names who appear in the japanese version (by looking the tracklist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmlDqr9zYcY <--- ONLY SHIELDNER SHELDON change to SHIELD SHELDON Finally... 1. Disc 4 track 31 UNUSED TRACK "STAGE SLECT" <--- It's this an misspelled too, right? 2. Would' be correct add in the note field that info about those missing track's & the mistake about ENDING 2 incorrect name in disc 2 that Judge Ito post? Last edited by folker84; Aug 13, 2013 at 07:27 PM. |
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Question: The Rockman Rockman/Maverick Hunter soundtrack page says Makoto Tomozawa did Spark Mandrill... but the page for Rockman X box doesn't. Can anyone confirm or deny? If Tomozawa did do it that's awesome because I love his work on MM7, Legends and Mandrill would be the icing on the Makoto cake.
Edit: Okay, so from above I take it Spark Mandrill and Storm Eagle. Last edited by Brad Evans; Dec 15, 2013 at 03:43 PM. |
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Tomozowa confirmed writing Spark Mandrill and Storm Eagle by correspondence. That info is actually in the liner notes here for the X box set ("Makoto Tomozawa: 1.16, 1.17, possibly others").
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My bad... I failed to realize how late in the disc Spark and Eagle fell. You're right...
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I knew Iwai did Chill Penguin. Also had a feeling Horiyama did the password BGM, and suspected that Yamamoto was the main composer.
I did not correctly guess Takehara's contribution, though. Thought she did Dr. Light and the ending theme.
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In the Composer line, Setsuo is misspelled as Setuo and it's linked, and I think only certain people can fix it.
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Naoya Kamisaka's Twitter bio says he did X vs ZERO: https://twitter.com/naotanutanu
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He may have done more as well, a quick Babelfish indicates he thinks that track is his "masterpiece".
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