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Old Oct 1, 2010, 08:36 AM
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Did anyone else that the Chrono Trigger/Cross arrangement used the opening chord (and orchestration, down to the string arpeggios) of the finale of Mahler's Symphony 2 at 8:30? It's a pretty distinctive chord (B-flat minor 9 inverted, with the C on the bottom), and it sounds out of place in the Chrono arrangement anyway. I wonder why it was chosen.

Anyway, great album.

Edit: Sorry, I said 7 chord originally. I meant 9.
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Old Oct 4, 2010, 07:30 AM
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According to 4Players.de, the encore will be released during this month (October 2010).

http://www.4players.de/4players.php/...Fantasies.html
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4Players didn't do their research properly. The booklet clearly states that Valtonen arranged all of the suites, Wanamo is (only) co/guest-arranger on the Chrono suite.

EDIT: Just sent them a mail.
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Old Oct 6, 2010, 12:10 PM
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Did anyone else that the Chrono Trigger/Cross arrangement used the opening chord (and orchestration, down to the string arpeggios) of the finale of Mahler's Symphony...
Haha, oh wow. So I wasn't the only one who noticed it. That's exactly what gave this arrangement a really classical feeling to it. I loved it, though.
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Did anyone else that the Chrono Trigger/Cross arrangement used the opening chord (and orchestration, down to the string arpeggios) of the finale of Mahler's Symphony 2 at 8:30? It's a pretty distinctive chord (B-flat minor 9 inverted, with the C on the bottom), and it sounds out of place in the Chrono arrangement anyway. I wonder why it was chosen.

Anyway, great album.

Edit: Sorry, I said 7 chord originally. I meant 9.
Indeed, Jonne Valtonen admitted Mahler was an influence while he worked on Fantasies. Another obvious reference is Holst's "Mars" in Kingdom Hearts, during "A Fight to the Death".

Apparently, he also used Ravel as a reference. It seems "Daphnis and Chloé" was quoted in a rather direct way in the Final Fantasy suite but I don't know when exactly. Well, it also had a major influence on the Secret of Mana suite, obviously...
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Indeed, Jonne Valtonen admitted Mahler was an influence while he worked on Fantasies. Another obvious reference is Holst's "Mars" in Kingdom Hearts, during "A Fight to the Death".
Ah, okay. I noticed the Mars bit too, but it wasn't important enough to point out. After all, how many video game and movie scores have had their own versions of it? Front Mission 2 and Gladiator (not to mention Star Wars) come to mind...
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Old Oct 24, 2010, 06:23 AM
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Speaking of the encore, am I right that orchestra and choir were joined by both Rony Barrak and Benyamin Nuss for the final performance? I can certainly hear Rony's drumming, but I'm a bit unsure about Benyamin -- anyone who clearly remembers?
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No Benyamin.
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Old Oct 25, 2010, 10:38 AM
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Yes Benyamin, unless it was an impostor in the video. Or playback. Breakdown of performers here.
That's Symphonic Legends, we're talking about the Symphonic Fantasies encore here.
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Old Oct 25, 2010, 10:33 PM
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PB, you're wrong in both cases. Neither encore featured Benyamin. In Symphonic Fantasies, no piano was featured as I remember from attending both performances. In Symphonic Legends, it was the WDR Radio Orchestra's in-house pianist.
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No, Benyamin Nuss was there for the encore of Legends, together with Rony Barrak.
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Sorry, you're correct. I was talking about the Symphonic Poem, not the encore, as there was some confusion regarding his presence in the former.
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Ah, I see. By the way, any news about the digital release of the Encore?
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Ah, I see. By the way, any news about the digital release of the Encore?
I think it's available on iTunes:
http://itunes.apple.com/de/album/sym...es/id390145825
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Old Oct 27, 2010, 07:09 AM
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You have to buy the whole album? I already bought it! Shouldn't there be a way for us that have the CD to get the encore?
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You have to buy the whole album? I already bought it! Shouldn't there be a way for us that have the CD to get the encore?
Indeed. One of the many reasons I hate iTunes. >_<
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Old Oct 28, 2010, 01:48 PM
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It is going be available for download as a separate track. It just takes time...
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