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Old Apr 21, 2012, 10:47 AM
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I've 2 copies of this album with different price shown on respective obis.
Both have the same price without tax (2920 yen), but tax included one is 3066 ; the other 3008. Near prices there are different kanjis I'm not able to read. Can someone do it?, please
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Old Apr 21, 2012, 02:20 PM
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in 1989 the tax started at 3% (3008 yens)

edit: in 1997, it came to 5% (3066 yens) and still is at 5%

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Old Apr 22, 2012, 02:53 AM
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in 1987, the tax was at 5% for this product leastwise (3066 yens, it's not said other CD have the same rate) and in 1989 the tax changed to 3% (3008 yens)
so the 3066 price is the initial printing price when the 3008 (税込価格) is the price after the change of tax

edit: I forgot to say that that change of tax isn't really a change but rather the start of official product taxation
before that "creation", taxes weren't really officially controlled (in 1997, it came to 5% and still is at 5%)
I'm not a tax accountant and you may know more than me, but could it be really called a "tax" if it isn't officially charged by the government? I'd surmise that, if there wasn't any price revision, depa would be mostly likely to have both pre-1997 and post-1997 prints.

1987 - 1989: 2920 yen
1989 - 1996: 2920 yen x 1.03 = 3008 yen
1997 - 2012: 2920 yen x 1.05 = 3066 yen
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Old Apr 22, 2012, 04:39 AM
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I'm not a tax accountant and you may know more than me, but could it be really called a "tax" if it isn't officially charged by the government? I'd surmise that, if there wasn't any price revision, depa would be mostly likely to have both pre-1997 and post-1997 prints.

1987 - 1989: 2920 yen
1989 - 1996: 2920 yen x 1.03 = 3008 yen
1997 - 2012: 2920 yen x 1.05 = 3066 yen
that list of prices could be related to reprints of that album
I wasn't sure about that 3066 yens price because
since it's an old album, I thought it went out-of-print and that 3066 was the initial price
and I hadn't checked if that album had been reprinted under another catalog (it seems there is none)
so it can be assumed that album has been reprinted over years by taking the new tax rates in consideration on their obi

maybe albums released before 1989 should have the tax-excluded prices
the "help" note about prices could speak about that
if before 1989 -> tax excluded, if after 1989 -> tax included (3%), if after 1997 -> tax included (5%)
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Old Jul 30, 2012, 12:00 AM
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Hey Vulcan the real romanization of ユリア…永遠に is "Yuria... towa ni" and not "eien ni" like some western site reports. A direct corfimation can be found here (Minute 3.32) directly from this old VHS with live performance of Crystal King. . it says exactly YURIA TOWA NI. The misunderstanding comes probably from the French disc that report eien ni on the cover.
Case closed!!!!

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