BSPE-1030~1: SENJOU NO VALKYRIA 3 ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK

[Don]

Added remixers based on list that Sakimoto's assistant gave me.

[dancey]

I think the only valid translation for 野口勇介 is "Yuusuke Noguchi", but I could be wrong.

[Zanasea]

This webpage indeed points to ノグチ ユウスケ. Seems quite reliable to me.

[Don]

For those who are interested in a chance to win this soundtrack autographed by Hitoshi Sakimoto, details here:

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[Cedille]

The quality of our translation wasn't particularly good, as evidenced by the fact that there was only one contributor whose ability was below an average, and we had another fan translation which might have been partly based on ours given the addition of double quotations or overall similarity but was definitely better (maybe excepting 2-13) anyway and I was actually going to adjust ours to it.

Ours;

Spoiler:

01 Valkyria Chronicles III Main Theme
02 Fierce Battlefield
03 In Search of The Next Battle
04 Counter Offence!
05 The Looming Sound of Ammunition Boots
06 We Are "The Nameless"
07 Daily Lives of "The Nameless"
08 Signs of Unrest
09 Swirling Conspiracy
10 Fear and Guts
11 Seesawing
12 Crow of Disaster
13 Critical Moment!
14 A Momentary Rest
15 Damn it!
16 Are The Customers Pigeons?
17 Dark Hero
18 That is "The Nameless"
19 Connecting Hearts

01 Valkyria Chronicles III Main Theme (Short ver.)
02 Riela Marceris
03 As a Squad
04 "The Nameless", Takeoff!
05 With Pride in Hearts
06 OPEN FIRE!
07 Risking Everything on This Stroke
08 Must-win Battle
09 With You...
10 Steady Preparedness
11 Final Decisive Battle
12 Unnamed Heroes
13 To The Fortune of Mutual Trust
14 Together With A Little Fortune
15 Theme of Valkyria ~Guitar ver.~
16 Gallant Battle ~Guitar ver.~
17 Final Battle ~Guitar ver.~
18 Series' Main Theme ~Guitar ver.~

Another; (colored = different than above)

Spoiler:

01 Valkyria Chronicles III Main Theme
02 Fierce Battlefield
03 In Search of The Next Battle
04 Counter Offence!
05 The Looming Sound of Military Boots
06 We Are "The Nameless"
07 Daily Lives of "The Nameless"
08 Signs of Unrest
09 Swirling Conspiracy
10 Fear and Willpower
11 Advance and Retreat
12 Crow of Disaster
13 Critical Moment!
14 A Momentary Rest
15 Damn it!
16 Are the Customers Made of Money?
17 Dark Hero
18 That is "The Nameless"
19 Connecting Hearts

01 Valkyria Chronicles III Main Theme (Short ver.)
02 Riela Marceris
03 As a Squad
04 "The Nameless", Takeoff!
05 With Pride in the Heart
06 OPEN FIRE!
07 Risking Everything on this Strike
08 A Must-Win Battle
09 With You...
10 Unwavering Resolution
11 Final Decisive Battle
12 Unnamed Heroes
13 Together With a Little Luck
14 Together With A Little Fortune
15 Theme of Valkyria ~Guitar ver.~
16 Gallant Battle ~Guitar ver.~
17 Final Battle ~Guitar ver.~
18 Series Main Theme ~Guitar ver.~

Today, though, the digital version is released and this album is now available on the US iTunes Store, which means the tracks are finally translated, possibly, by a professional. What I like about official translation is that they're generally less literal, long-winded, yet more reflective of the game's setting, world, context, etc., so I expected something of official quality, but...

Spoiler:

01 Valkyria Chronicles 3 Main Theme
02 Fierce Battlefield
03 In Search of The Next Battle
04 Counter Offence!
05 The Looming Sound of Ammunition Boots
06 We Are "The Nameless"
07 Daily Lives of "The Nameless"
08 Signs of Unrest
09 Swirling Conspiracy
10 Fear and Guts
11 Seesawing
12 Calamity Raven
13 Critical Moment!
14 A Momentary Rest
15 Damn it!
16 Are The Customers Pigeons?
17 Dark Hero
18 That is "The Nameless"
19 Connecting Hearts

01 Valkyria Chronicles 3 Main Theme (Short ver.)
02 Riela Marceris
03 As a Squad
04 "The Nameless", Takeoff!
05 With Pride in Hearts
06 OPEN FIRE!
07 Risking Everything on This Stroke
08 Must-win Battle
09 With You...
10 Steady Preparedness
11 Final Decisive Battle
12 Nameless Heroes
13 To The Fortune of Mutual Trust
14 Together With A Little Fortune
15 Theme of Valkyria (Guitar ver.)
16 Desperate Fight (Guitar ver.)
17 Championship (Guitar ver.)
18 Valkyria Chronicles Series Main Theme (Guitar ver.)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, be it a copy-paste pr coincidence, it doesn't matter to me. I am more worried that some dubs such as "Are The Customers Pigeons?" now became official. Note that tracks like "Desperate Fight" or "Championship" are also a kind of wrong translations that were once submitted to GMRonline and VGMdb...

[Dag]

Wow, that's pretty shameless. If they used an exact copy, it'd be possible they mistaken our tracklist with an official one and just reused it, but since they went and randomly changed tracknames, it's just a lazy job.

Capcom did something similar for Makaimura Collection, apparently they took the track names for Demon's Crest from an SPC set... For shame.

While we are at it, and disregarding the "official" hackjob, if may I suggest some nitpicky changes... (based on the above)

Spoiler:

03 In Search of the Next Battle [I think 'the' is most commonly kept in lowercase, unless it's a name like "The Nameless"]
04 Counter-Offensive! [seems this the preferred military term]
05 The Looming Sound of Combat Boots [ammunition/army boots seem more of UK terms]
06 We're "The Nameless" [I think the original おれたちゃ is more casual than "we are", ie.- said by a more softspoken character]
10 Fear and Willpower
11 Advance and Retreat
15 Damn You! [isn't くそくらえ！directed at others?]
16 Are the Customers Made of Money? [I'm not too sure about this one. "Made of money"=very rich, but I think おカネ様 doesn't imply that much. "Are the Customers [to you] Simply/Just Money?" seems more like it]
18 That Is "The Nameless" [verbs should go with first letter uppercase]
19 Understanding/Connected Hearts [ie.- 'hearts that understand each other', "connecting" sounds more like "doing connections"]

04 "The Nameless", Onward! [I don't know the context, but takeoff applies more to airplanes and the game seems like just field battles]
05 With Pride in the Heart
07 Risking Everything on this Strike
08 A Must-Win Battle
10 Unwavering Resolution
12 Unnamed Heroes [or Nameless Heroes too]
13 To a Future of Mutual Trust [why "fortune" before though?]
14 Together With a Little Future
18 Series Main Theme ~Guitar ver.~

(btw... #g doesn't reread their stuff and named 2-13+14 the same. Lulz)

[Cedille]

Thanks for great suggestions!

I'll reflect them, and perhaps use the revised version as the display tracklist. I was also stuck with 1-16, but there is a common saying "お客様は神様" (Okyaku-sama ha Kami-sama = The customer is always right.). The track name was, with a similar sounding (Okyaku-sama ha Okane-sama), an attempt to imply the reverse thing. I failed to do it right.

Someone familiar with the game can contribute more. I guess "決勝戦" from VC2 (2-17) has to be "Laevatein Cup Finals"

[Xenofan 29A]

Good, so that future/fortune thing wasn't just me. I thought that had to be wrong, but I didn't feel like speaking out. (I would use "Nameless Heroes," myself.)

[Despatche]

is it really fair to credit all these older games if we're talking about arrangements actually used in game to establish "series themes"? that's silly. that means every single shin sangokumusou album needs to have SOME older game credited because nearly all of them use an arrangement of songs like DYNASTY WARRIORS, DEATHBLOW, so on and so forth.

an arrange album targeting a number of games? good. an entry in a series that rearranges some tracks from older games for the hell of it? bad. surely that's reasonable?

(all caps thing is just me trying to match the "ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK" bit. tracklists look a little better that way too. i mean if we're gonna do this whole "english, even against logic" thing, may as well do it right)

[Cedille]

Originally Posted by Despatche

is it really fair to credit all these older games if we're talking about arrangements actually used in game to establish "series themes"? that's silly. that means every single shin sangokumusou album needs to have SOME older game credited because nearly all of them use an arrangement of songs like DYNASTY WARRIORS, DEATHBLOW, so on and so forth.

an arrange album targeting a number of games? good. an entry in a series that rearranges some tracks from older games for the hell of it? bad. surely that's reasonable?

No, these tracks are what I'm talking about. Or are they really used in the game, rather than bonus tracks exclusive to this album?

Originally Posted by disc2

15 ヴァルキュリアのテーマ ～Guitar ver.～
16 勇戦 ～Guitar ver.～
17 決勝戦 ～Guitar ver.～
18 シリーズメインテーマ ～Guitar ver.～

[Despatche]

well, i'm just assuming, not really any other reason they'd be there. but if they're just there to be a nice bonus for the album, there wouldn't be a problem with crediting, of course.

oh, it does actually say "bonus track" in the booklet. for some reason i missed that before... sorry about that, carry on. my points still stand, though. pokemon was like that a little while ago, and that game /does/ reuse tracks.

[dancey]

- Added catalogue number to discs in Album Info
- Corrected some of the English (Official) casing on some words. Not sure if they were originally correct and later changed on iTunes since this release is a bit old.