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Oh crap I'm stoked for this! I think the game won't live up to the hype, but lord the soundtrack will be good.
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I'm a little confused on this one. SEMO reported that only the Blu-ray version of this will contain the complete score, and the CD version is just a "selection"? It's 4 CD's, sure, but apparently the Blu-ray has something close to 200 tracks.
I don't have any way to get audio Blu-rays into iTunes, so this sucks. I hope the downloadable iTunes version is complete. |
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Blu-ray LE also comes with the Piano Arrangement CD and first blu-ray disc seems to have the Florence + the Machine tracks also.
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Music credits from the English version of the game
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On Unique Note's website, they credit themselves for Composition/Arrangement and Recording.
"作曲/編曲" couldn't be more straightforward. Somehow, in some fashion, Shibata or Aoki or both composed music for FF15.
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The game doesn't list composer credits from what I saw. Yoshitaka Suzuki and Shota Nakama have both said they composed music for the game as well. |
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Here's one detail: the Regalia (car in FF15) has a selection of various albums. One of them is Justice Monsters Five, which was scored by Unique Note.
I don't think that's the extent of their "involvement", though. Their blog specifically mentions composition/arrangement for FF15.
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Thank you for the clarification! I'm listening carefully to the music in-game, but the music direction is very poor. In particular, music is used sparingly during exploration. Wasted opportunity.
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Early days, but I would actually argue the entire music is surprisingly poor for a Final Fantasy game. Too many underdeveloped compositions, cinematic cliches, and weak production for my liking.
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I think like that too. Although I enjoyed the majority of this soundtrack in general, the procution is worse than FF13 saga or 14.
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General music impressions so far:
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DUNGEON I've only heard two so far, I think. The waterfall cave is appropriately atmospheric, a moody piano over string chords. Very nice. TOWN Ugh. The music in the "towns" has been really dull. Every one reflects a particular genre of music (the blues rock of Hammerhead, the bossa nova of Galdin Quay, the vaguely Portuguese and occasional mariachi of Lestallum, etc.) However, they are rote exercises in those genres. The composition and arrangement is perfunctory and generic. The town themes themselves will vary when entering shops/restaurants/hotels, but only with the fading in and out of instrument tracks. All of them are painfully boring, seeming to have been composed without a hint of interest or passion. MISCELLANEOUS
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Glad to see Ms. Shimomura is putting her undeniable talent into this one. The game might not be that spectacular, but there are always other angles to look for.
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Thanks for the detailed thoughts, Joe. Really interesting perspectives that I agree with.
I expected Yoko Shimomura to really step up here to create her biggest 'masterpiece' to date just as Sakimoto did with FFXII and Hamauzu did with FFXIII. Instead, most of what I heard are retreads of her previous approaches with live instruments. The compositions tend to be underdeveloped (e.g. the waltz theme) or all too standard (e.g. the battle themes). Short, snappy compositions work fine for a Kingdom Hearts title, but something as big as Final Fantasy really needs more in my opinion. |
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I'm a great fan of Sakimoto's score for FF XII and Hamauzu's FF XIII as well but hey: the story of both asked for more mature musical tones. I don't know how to put this but we are talking about a FF that has a "boy band-like" group of friends as major characters, so... maybe short, snappy compositions aren't that... "misplaced". It doesn't mean this is bad though. Last edited by franzito; Dec 5, 2016 at 12:35 AM. |
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I'm not criticising Shimomura's past score. I gave rave reviews for Parasite Eve, Legend of Mana, and Kingdom Hearts. Just I'm surprised she didn't step up to surpass these with FFXV, instead sticking often for more of the same.
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I think I spotted an Aoki track. Couldn't shake the feeling as I was wandering around in the early part of Chapter 12.
On a game-related note, it feels like there's huge chunks of story missing between chapters. They blow by so fast, with little rationality or character motivation. Remember Disc 2 of Xenogears? It's like that, but instead with like one sentence every time we get back to the screen with Fei sitting in a chair. In XG, even when it went into Visual Novel mode, it still told a well-fleshed out story. Here it seems they gave up 10 chapters ago.
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I've only really sampled the battle themes online, but they seem to scream of orchestral bombast (with electric guitars in the background occasionally) and not too much actual thought. Not really what I'd want to hear from Shimomura. Shame, since there seem to be a LOT of battle themes.
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I did spot a few more Aoki tracks, I think. They stand out compared to the usual stuff. No youtube link this time--there's a scene in chapter 13 where you are reunited with a certain character who starts talking about their backstory. There's another one later on during another cutscene... can't remember the context. Speaking of Aoki. She's brilliant at field themes, which would've filled a massive void in this game's score. Even Shimomura's attempts would have been better than silence. The battle themes really have become monotonous. Suzuki's presence is over-represented, I feel. I really can't stand that dungeon/tension battle theme he did. It plays all the time beginning in chapter 8 or so. Shimomura's work is, again, her usual orchestral stuff. There's one Parasite Eve-like track that uses the prelude--it's a good one. Can't find a link.
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Yeah, I beat the game feeling disappointed by its music. When it's used at all, it's either irritating (most of the town/outpost themes, the Suzuki battle themes) or generic (the cutscene and event music). If anything, it brought a greater appreciation of the XIII score, which I listened to a lot while on the road.
While not a big Shimomura fan, I do feel that she wrote most of the best music here. Her battle themes are generally engaging, the final boss theme is pretty good and she nails most of the ending material. I wonder what the soundtrack would have been like if she'd written the entire thing. (Or better yet, Hamauzu.) |
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Agreed. She did a great job on this.
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Shimomura-san borrows heavily from what Hamauzu made of FF XIII scores, although you can tell their styles apart, it's not like she blindly followed his "recipe". You can also recognize lots of similar tunes from pasts FFs as well in her / collaborators compositions, like they are paying homage... this also gives the feeling that many pieces seem too generic at times... I doubt that too although the direction KH DDD OST took was quite promising! Still, it's KH we're talking about, so expect upbeat marimba / xylophone compositions that, even loving, I don't think of them was worthy of being considered masterpieces. Last edited by franzito; Dec 18, 2016 at 04:43 AM. |
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Composer breakdown (according to user czoltan from ffshrineforums):
1. Somnus (Intrumental Version) - Yoko Shimomura 2. Departure - Yoko Shimomura/Yoshitaka Suzuki 3. Broken Down - Tetsuya Shibata 4. Hammerhead - Tetsuya Shibata 5. Wanderlust - Yoshitaka Suzuki/Yoko Shimomura 6. Encroaching Fear - Yoko Shimomura 7. Stand Your Ground - Yoko Shimomura 8. Relax and Reflect - Yoko Shimomura 9. Day's End Fanfare - Nobuo Uematsu 10. Horizon - Yoko Shimomura 11. Safe Haven - Tetsuya Shibata 12. Lurking Danger - Yoko Shimomura 13. Hunt or Be Hunted - Yoshitaka Suzuki 14. CINDY - Yoko Shimomura 15. Urban Chrome - Yoko Shimomura 16. A Quick Pit Stop - Yoko Shimomura 17. Love Lost - Yoko Shimomura 18. Galdin Quay - Tetsuya Shibata 19. ARDYN - Yoko Shimomura/Yoshitaka Suzuki 20. The Aggressors - Yoko Shimomura 21. NOX AETERNA - Yoko Shimomura 22. The Hunters - Tetsuya Shibata 23. What Lies Within - Yoko Shimomura 24. Daemons - Yoko Shimomura 25. Bros on the Road - Shota Nakama 26. Fantastica! - Yoko Shimomura 27. The Niflheim Empire - Yoko Shimomura 28. Veiled in Black - Yoko Shimomura 29. Valse di Fantastica - Yoko Shimomura 30. Crystalline Chill - Yoko Shimomura/Nobuo Uematsu 31. What a Hoot - Yoko Shimomura 32. Blues de Chocobo - Nobuo Uematsu 33. Reel Rumble - Yoshino Aoki 34. The Fight Is On! - Yoko Shimomura 35. Lestallum - Tetsuya Shibata 36. Welcome to the Leville - Tetsuya Shibata 37. Unsettling Aura - Yoko Shimomura 38. Don't Panic! - Yoko Shimomura 39. APOCALYPSIS NOCTIS - Yoko Shimomura 40. Cosmogony - Yoko Shimomura 41. Melancholia - Yoko Shimomura 42. A Premonition - Yoko Shimomura 43. NOX DIVINA - Yoko Shimomura 44. Labyrinthine - Yoko Shimomura 45. Flying R - Yoshino Aoki 46. Imperial Infiltration - Yoko Shimomura 47. Veiled in Black (Arrangement) - Yoko Shimomura 48. Invidia - Yoko Shimomura 49. Sorrow Without Solace - Yoko Shimomura 50. Sunset Waltz - Yoko Shimomura 51. Disquiet - Yoko Shimomura 52. OMNIS LACRIMA - Yoko Shimomura 53. Rodeo de Chocobo - Nobuo Uematsu 54. Listen Up - Yoko Shimomura 55. Creeping Shadows - Yoko Shimomura 56. Impending Peril - Yoko Shimomura 57. Up for the Challenge - Yoko Shimomura 58. Cape Caem - Tetsuya Shibata 59. Cape Caem - Our New Home - Tetsuya Shibata 60. Cape Caem - Hidden Harbor - Tetsuya Shibata 61. Bros on the Road II - Yoko Shimomura 62. NOCTIS - Yoko Shimomura 63. Over the Waves - Yoshino Aoki 64. Altissia - Yoshino Aoki 65. Altissia - Gondola Ride - Yoshino Aoki 66. Welcome to the Royal Suite - Yoshino Aoki 67. Starlit Waltz - Yoko Shimomura 68. Prayer de LUNA - Yoko Shimomura 69. No Time Left - Yoko Shimomura 70. Song of the Stars - Yoko Shimomura 71. The Hydraean's Wrath - Yoshitaka Suzuki/Yoko Shimomura 72. ARDYN II - Yoko Shimomura 73. LUNA - Yoko Shimomura 74. APOCALYPSIS AQUARIUS - Yoko Shimomura 75. Broken Bonds - Tetsuya Shibata 76. Dining Car - Yoko Shimomura 77. Cartanica - Tetsuya Shibata 78. Relax and Reflect - Pensive - Yoko Shimomura 79. Careening Into Danger - Yoko Shimomura 80. Tenebrae - Yoko Shimomura 81. Horrors of the Night - Yoko Shimomura 82. End of the Road - Yoko Shimomura 83. An Empire in Ruins - Yoko Shimomura 84. RAVUS AETERNA - Yoko Shimomura 85. In the Light of the Crystal - Yoko Shimomura 86. A World Unwaking - Yoshino Aoki 87. Neverending Nightmare - Yoko Shimomura 88. Homecoming - Tetsuya Shibata 89. Hammerhead - The Last Bastion - Tetsuya Shibata 90. Somnus - Yoko Shimomura 91. Hellfire - Yoshitaka Suzuki/Yoko Shimomura 92. Magna Insomnia - Yoko Shimomura 93. Dawn - Yoko Shimomura 94. Somnus Ultima - Yoko Shimomura 95. Dewdrops at Dawn - Yoko Shimomura 96. Main Theme from FINAL FANTASY - Nobuo Uematsu |
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I think this might unfortunately my least favorite soundtrack of the main series FF games outside of X. The heartbreaking thing is that the best material on here really soars, but so much of the soundtrack is just serviceable. It's not captivating or particularly interesting outside of its in-game context and that kills me. Whether its the pastiche town themes or the many by-numbers ambient or battle themes, I just don't think a lot of the tracks have much to offer outside of my gameplay experiences.
I find that "Cartanica" onward mostly sees a huge quality increase over what precedes it. Not many tracks have the vibrance or richness that "Valse di Fantastica," "Wanderlust" or "APOCALYPSIS NOCTIS" demonstrate. Those tracks, to me, are simultaneously very Shimomura while being very distinctively "FFXV" at the same time. They set the tone without being adequate "Destati" retreads ("OMNIS LACRIMA") or through-and-through exercises in genre ("Galdin Quay," "A Quick Pit Stop," "Starlit Waltz"). It's disappointing that after ten years I can walk away from this record and think "it's okay" and not "even as not Shimomura's biggest fan, this is her masterpiece." Also, if Kenji Ito wants to do FFXVI, that'd be great, thanks. |
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I'm not convinced the above credits are entirely accurate. For instance, Daemons and Ravus Aeterna (using a theme of Shimomura's) are both clearly written by the composer of Hellfire, Suzuki. I guess we'll have to wait for a more reliable source.
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I was under the impression she composed the whole score by herself as some themes keep repeating and "KH / FF" references are everywhere.
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Cheers for that!
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