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NTDO-17210: Xenoblade Special Sound Track
It says in the Nintendo interview that this CD will have 12 tracks.
"選りすぐりの12曲を収録したCDになっていますし、 それぞれのみなさんがつくった曲が入っていますので。" |
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The official website also confirms this.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/sx4j/tokuten/index.html Note that it simply credits ACE+ so maybe we should do the same. |
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I'm not sure if it's mandatory, as we often credit individual artists instead of a group as a whole (e.g. Falcom Sound Team jdk). The quote implies this soundtrack contains music from all the composer involved. Still, I don't oppose to your suggestion, though.
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Well, I'm just discussing the possibility. We could have "ACE+" as composer name and "Tomori Kudo, CHiCO, Kenji Hiramatsu" as suffix, like we did with ACE before.
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By the way, I may remove "Contains music that will surely please fans of the past Xeno series as well as Yoko Shimomura's tracks." from the note. It was added by me based on this blog entry, and I thought some arrangements from Xeno series would be featured, but maybe it meant a surprising involvement of Yasunori Mitsuda, which is now well-spread. Quote:
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Actually, we've been doing it like this: Tomori Kudo (ACE+), CHiCO (ACE+), Kenji Hiramatsu (ACE+).
The ACE+ doesn't link currently, but we might want to work on a way to link the suffixes too. |
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Just listening to this, it's great... no, really great.
If the content of the Special Sound Track is representative for the OST then we might have a new candidate for soundtrack of the year (my other candidate is FF13) |
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Is there a composer breakdown included? Beyond the Sky, of course, is Mitsuda's piece, and the main theme is Shimomura's, but besides that, who composed the others?
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1,2,3 - Shimomura 4,7,8,9,11 - ACE+ 5,6,10 - Manami Kiyota 12 - Mitsuda |
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I had a feeling Xenoblade would be to ACE+ as Wild Arms 5 was to Noriyasu Agematsu. A lesser known but awesome artist finally getting their moment under the spotlight. All the tracks on this release are fantastic, but I'm particularly liking the contributions made by ACE+. Should be a great soundtrack; I might buy it now after hearing this!
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Every review you'll see if the game reaches other shores will only mention Shimomura and Mitsuda (as if he composed half of the soundtrack indeed). We all know them too well!
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If ACE+'s contributions all sound like that pseudo-metal garbage we hear in the XB trailers, I'm definitely hoping their role is limited. I'm usually pretty enthusiastic when new blood is hired into the field, but not when it sounds like that.
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Nope, not all the ACE+ music is rock oriented. Only 1 of the ACE+ songs on this promo album is the pseudo-metal you describe.
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Judge Ito, I get a little touchy about soundtracks for games that I actually look forward to playing. This is a Takahashi game, and that kind of music just doesn't belong. I'm still disappointed over Shimomura being put in the lead role, but at least she stays away from that particular genre. Not that there's anything wrong with rock or metal or any derivative or hybrid of either, it's just that most composers suck at writing in those styles. It's always about excessive wailing and effects or hyperactive solos or technical virtuosity--none of which are substantial enough qualities on their own to build an entire composition around. The issue is compounded when taking into account the typically predictable chord progressions and flat, diluted arrangements.
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It astounds me how many video game music enthusiasts can't stand a little cheese now and then. Track 7 is one of the better game tracks I've heard all year, anyway. Sounds like a wonderful fight.
Did anybody ever tell you guys you vote 5 way too often? If you're going to throw around 5's like they're nothing, you might as well follow Youtube's route and make album voting a like/dislike choice. Last edited by Judge Ito; Jun 11, 2010 at 11:00 PM. |
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Two of Kiyota's tracks are very beautiful. One of them is very dark/beautiful, but they are all solid. At least, I think so. They are all on YOutube now (in addition to the rest of the special soundtrack)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJDpj-HRQu4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opZ77...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsy9J...eature=related |
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The best ones are the Shimomura tracks. I didn't like Beyond the Sky as much as I had hoped, but it's nowhere near as bad as "Maybe Tomorrow" was. Some of ACE+'s stuff sounded good, some of it not as good. I'm still looking forward to the full soundtrack.
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'maybe tomorrow' and bad?!?!?!
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I'm sorry, but I still think it's terrible. Everything from the tune to the lyrics were cringe-worthy. For all the things that Yuki Kajiura is good at, she has NO talent at writing English lyrics. (Plus, I can't shake the association with Home Depot commercials...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hmx9...eature=related Then again, my benchmark for bad songs in video games is Lost Odyssey's "What You Are", so at least it's not that. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7OD3nc2fDM Unless, of course, you are talking solely about English lyrics? |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anztDySaT1U EDIT: Just to clarify, I really like this particular song from Sakura Taisen. It's just that it's a lot better without the vocalist *g* Last edited by LiquidAcid; Jun 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM. |
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maybe tomorrow: the moon is gone and the night is still so dark I'm a little bit afraid of tomorrow for this day was so long and hard for me and I've lost some of the things so far I have trusted now I will close my heart and sleep a while bless my dream with gentle darkness until I could have my strength to wait for the light maybe tomorrow... I've come through some betrayal, some old pains, some addiction to the love and some good-bye like you did, like my mother, father did, I will cray a little while and wait for tomorrow there's no way to be free from the loneliness it took so long for me to notice but now I am on my way to find my light maybe this day.... maybe tomorrow.... I will sleep a while, until the dawn wakes me up again I still believe....come what may.... there is no way to be free from love deeper we sink in the darkness brighter is shines in our hearts the lights of love the moon is gone and the night is still so dark I'm a little bit afraid of tomorrow but I will go.... I'll go over.... I will go.... Concerning the 'tune' - since the track reuses the themes of the rest of the score, I figure that you don't like that as well? Without doubt, the lyrics need a lot of interpretation to make sense - interpretation that probably needs the game context. Since I don't know the game content I refrain from commenting on that. And even without interpretation I hardly find this one to be 'cheesy' (and even that term is extremely depend on context, see e.g. 'Suteki da ne'). Quote:
EDIT: And concerning ACE+, I find their contributions to the Special Soundtrack to be very diverse - of course Shimomura stands out a lot (in a good way), but also the mix/balance is important. Last edited by LiquidAcid; Jun 12, 2010 at 12:18 PM. |
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Oh yeah...that one was irritating...and I mean really irritating...
But I don't know. "What You Are" is just so amazingly, jaw-droppingly awful that I might still have to give it the nod. For one thing, its arrangement is so incredibly sappy, it sounds like one of those songs that they put at the end of Disney movies. (Those synth harp glissandi just drive me insane.) |
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I'm going to pretend I didn't see see you bashing Kajiura, because she's brilliant.
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I'm not bashing her. I really like Kajiura's music. I own both Xenosaga II and III's soundtracks as well as one of the .Hack Sign OSTs. I respect her as a composer, and I do love some of her music. I hold to the criticisms I stated, though. Really, I don't mean to cause offense.
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http://www.rpgfan.com/soundtracks/xs3/index.html
My thoughts haven't really changed too much since I wrote that. I agree that this is a very subjective matter, but I still cannot stand those lyrics. (On the other hand, I think that "Suteki Da Ne" is very good, but maybe it doesn't work so well in translation for some.) And you're right that she works with really good singers and such. I'm not disputing her musical talent. Edit: Re-reading the review, maybe I would soften it a little more if I were to write it today. Last edited by Xenofan 29A; Jun 12, 2010 at 12:38 PM. |
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Just read your review, very interesting - I mostly agree with your points, except for the ending theme and that's probably just different taste. If you liked 'godsibb' you should _really_ check out the live DVD (here is it: http://vgmdb.net/album/17671).
If you're into Kalafina and FictionJunction you're going to like it even more (and Hitoshi Konno, who is also on the Xenoblade score, also performs there). |
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Thanks. I'm a little embarassed by the writing, given that that was four years ago, but that's just me, I bet. Cool that there's a live performance of godsibb. That's still one of my favorite tracks from the soundtrack. I note that Fake Wings and canta per me are also on there. (Edit: Oh, and "the world" too!) Pretty nice selections. I'm not quite as familiar with Kajiura's ouvre as her fans, but I'll have to check it out.
Anyway, this is the Xenoblade special soundtrack forum! Back on topic! My favorites are 1, 3, and 4. |
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OK, back ontopic - my favorites would be 4, 2, 12, 8 (in that order).
EDIT: One last comment on the 'Emily Curtis vocal mastering' issue - I really think that this is/was a problem with your audio setup. I just listened to the track with both my speaker system and the headphones, and her voice is crystal clear with both. Last edited by LiquidAcid; Jun 12, 2010 at 01:37 PM. |
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Huh, thanks for bringing up Kajiura. As much as I don't care for Shimomura, I should realize the choice for lead composer could have been much worse. ^^;
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