VGMdb
Go Back   VGMdb Forums > Discussion > Video Game Music Discussion > Album Discussions
Register FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old Mar 2, 2010, 01:45 AM
Hellacia Hellacia is offline
Trusted Editor
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 813

Just something a little odd I noticed while looking at scans of the booklet front: there seem to be two different pictures claiming to be "booklet front", but one of them has the catalog number in the bottom-right corner while the other does not. Where does this difference come from? It's just sort of curious :P
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old Mar 2, 2010, 01:55 AM
depa depa is offline
VGMdb Staff
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Italy
Posts: 766
Default

The picture with the cat. no. printed is the sticker; many old Scitron album have an extra sticker with the same picture of the booklet.

Last edited by depa; Mar 2, 2010 at 01:58 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old Mar 2, 2010, 02:02 AM
Hellacia Hellacia is offline
Trusted Editor
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 813
Default

Aha. Cool. Not quite sure why it's called booklet front then o_o Thanks for the info.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old Mar 2, 2010, 02:37 AM
depa depa is offline
VGMdb Staff
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Italy
Posts: 766
Default

Only for reference look:

Here or here

I have corrected now the "booklet front" image to "sticker" to avoid confusion
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old Jan 30, 2016, 12:48 PM
Rrolack Rrolack is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 330
Default

Interestingly, I own two copies of this album, and each has a different colored obi. One of them is a light "lime green," and the other is a much darker "forest green." Here is a picture of them side-by-side:

http://i.imgur.com/Kg9OE5G.jpg

Looking around on the internet, I haven't seen any other pictures of the "lime green" version - and so it's possible that the lime green isn't actually distinct, but is just a very faded forest green obi...


Any opinions?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old Jan 30, 2016, 12:52 PM
Rrolack Rrolack is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 330
Default

Actually, I do see another copy with a "lime green" obi here:

http://page23.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/j...ion/o118028273

So it's fair to say that there really are two distinct obis. I'll add the second one to the database.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old Jan 30, 2016, 01:05 PM
suicider's Avatar
suicider suicider is offline
Trusted Editor
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 506
Default

Since the copy from the mentioned auction has a registration card which was used later in the lifetime of Scitron, the "lime green" seems to be a later pressing.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old Jan 30, 2016, 01:13 PM
Rrolack Rrolack is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 330
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by suicider View Post
Since the copy from the mentioned auction has a registration card which was used later in the lifetime of Scitron, the "lime green" seems to be a later pressing.
Good catch!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old Jan 30, 2016, 08:37 PM
LuxKiller65's Avatar
LuxKiller65 LuxKiller65 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 821
Default

This one has the old reg. card but the obi looks neither "lime" nor "forest", more like in between...?

http://page23.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/j...ion/o120292191
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old Jan 31, 2016, 06:36 AM
suicider's Avatar
suicider suicider is offline
Trusted Editor
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 506
Default


Last edited by suicider; Nov 30, 2019 at 02:48 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old Jan 31, 2016, 08:57 AM
Rrolack Rrolack is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 330
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LuxKiller65 View Post
This one has the old reg. card but the obi looks neither "lime" nor "forest", more like in between...?

http://page23.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/j...ion/o120292191
I'd say that's the lime green.


Regarding the "alternate registration card" shown on YJA:

http://i.imgur.com/hWkTxA2.jpg

That card may actually be for a different album, i.e. an error by the seller. If you look at some of the registration cards for later albums in the 1500 series, the registration card clearly says "1500 SERIES" on the front, much like this one:

http://vgmdb.net/db/covers.php?do=view&cover=241054

The "alternate" card doesn't seem to say that, though unfortunately the picture is very low resolution.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old Feb 1, 2016, 06:15 AM
LuxKiller65's Avatar
LuxKiller65 LuxKiller65 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 821
Default

Hum, what about it's just discoloration? Since it's white on green, only the green would discolorate, making it hard to tell it's actually discolored.

The last picture from suicider looks darker than the "lime" ones posted earlier...?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old Sep 5, 2016, 09:30 AM
Rrolack Rrolack is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 330
Default

I now agree that the purportedly-different "lime green" obi is just a faded version of the original obi. In particular, the white lettering on the "lime green" obi is actually a faint yellow, which strongly suggests discoloration (possibly from smoke damage).

That being the case, can a mod please delete the "Obi (alt)" picture for this album?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old Sep 5, 2016, 09:51 AM
LiquidAcid LiquidAcid is offline
Trusted Editor
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,615
Default

It doesn't make any sense to delete scans which provide higher scan quality.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old Nov 30, 2019, 02:47 AM
suicider's Avatar
suicider suicider is offline
Trusted Editor
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 506
Default

After seeing two more auctions with the "lime green" obi and the newer style registration card I'm fairly certain this was used for later pressings. The old release with the black registration card has the forest green color.

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h434083039
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l565052382
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old Dec 1, 2019, 10:44 AM
Rrolack Rrolack is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 330
Default

Okay, after looking through aucfan (a YJA archive with 10 years of history), I'm now inclined to agree with suicider that there were in fact two different obi colors.

For example, see these auctions with the forest green obi:

https://aucview.aucfan.com/yahoo/h324363163/
https://aucview.aucfan.com/yahoo/j469062010/
https://aucview.aucfan.com/yahoo/w120662185/
https://aucview.aucfan.com/yahoo/e162150472/
https://aucview.aucfan.com/yahoo/r93456758/

And see these auctions with a distinctly lighter-colored lime green obi:

https://aucview.aucfan.com/yahoo/w123644610/
https://aucview.aucfan.com/yahoo/n113293654/
https://aucview.aucfan.com/yahoo/h434083039/
https://aucview.aucfan.com/yahoo/m81505883/
https://aucview.aucfan.com/yahoo/n140104692/



Now, it's possible that the lime green obis could just be faded. However, fading typically affects only part of the obi, e.g. the spine which is exposed to sunlight, leaving the other parts unscathed. In my experience it's very uncommon to see an obi that has perfectly uniform fading over all of its surfaces.

If you add to this that there are many examples of the lime green obi, I'd say it's almost certainly a real variant.


Any other thoughts from folks?

Note I sold my "lime green" copy a while ago, thinking it was just faded. Now I might need to pick up another copy of it
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old Dec 2, 2019, 03:04 AM
LuxKiller65's Avatar
LuxKiller65 LuxKiller65 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 821
Default

yes that is correct, green/black reg card is the confirmation that there are 2 prints, and we have enough links that show 2 spine colours --> win
__________________
my trade list
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old Oct 24, 2020, 05:55 AM
seanne's Avatar
seanne seanne is online now
VGMdb Staff
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,294
Default

Late to the party but I'll chime in that my copy has the lime green obi and I never thought it was due to sun fading, the color is perfectly consistent across the whole thing and it just looks...normal. Besides, obi's seldom end up faded on the right and left parts, right? It's usually the mid part that suffers.
__________________
VGMdb group on last.fm
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
ANG-00032: VELVET ECHO Sound Track seanne Album Discussions 3 Sep 3, 2020 08:43 PM
KDSD-00032: PSYVARIAR2 ORIGINAL Sound track PLUS JumboMaverick Album Discussions 3 Nov 7, 2015 10:03 PM
After Burner/After Burner II ORIGINAL SOUND TRACK (reprint) Myrkul Album Discussions 4 Jun 30, 2015 10:51 PM
After Burner Original Sound Tracks RingoStarr39 Album Discussions 0 May 17, 2015 03:58 PM
WM-0581~6: AFTER BURNER 20th Anniversary Box LuxKiller65 Album Discussions 3 Mar 30, 2012 07:50 AM