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Old Mar 8, 2021, 12:53 AM
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I noticed that Amazon.jp page has a listing for a "special edition" release, does anyone know what that's about? Perhaps it comes with a pre-order promo CD like Automata did.
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Old Mar 8, 2021, 01:01 AM
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I noticed that Amazon.jp page has a listing for a "special edition" release, does anyone know what that's about? Perhaps it comes with a pre-order promo CD like Automata did.
Just did a quick Google Translate and this is what it said:
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Jonah's Diary (Mini Booklet) (Amazon Design Cover)" will be included as an Amazon.co.jp exclusive benefit.

Amazon.co.jp限定特典として「ヨナの日記(ミニ冊子)(Amazon絵柄表紙)」が付きます。
So it sounds like it's an extra art booklet of sorts.
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Old Mar 8, 2021, 01:17 AM
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That doesn't sound like anything too substantial then. I was a little worried that I be missing out on a exclusive promo CD if I ordered it through the NA Square-Enix Store instead of pre-ordering it through Amazon.JP.
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Old Mar 8, 2021, 02:31 AM
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I hope this release has a composer breakdown, so we can finally know who did what. I know we can do guess work from the Monaca playlist on the site and cross reference other albums, but that only gets us so far.
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Old Mar 12, 2021, 12:20 PM
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I hope this release has a composer breakdown, so we can finally know who did what. I know we can do guess work from the Monaca playlist on the site and cross reference other albums, but that only gets us so far.
Well, MONACA has made sure to be careful with that for a while now. Both DOD3 and N:A had both composition AND arrangement credit, so we will at least know for sure who were the original composers for NieR Gestalt & Replicant. That still leaves out the possible original arrangers, but who knows, maybe they'll do a reprint of the original ost one day or another with full credits.
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Is there a source for the list of composers/arrangers that's already up on the album page? Can't seem to find it anywhere else.
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Old Mar 21, 2021, 03:49 PM
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Is there a source for the list of composers/arrangers that's already up on the album page? Can't seem to find it anywhere else.
Likely game credits. MONACA wiki also lists those:
http://monaca-music.net/wiki/ニーア_レプリ...22474487139...
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Old Mar 21, 2021, 04:13 PM
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Likely game credits. MONACA wiki also lists those:
http://monaca-music.net/wiki/ニーア_レプリ...22474487139...
Thanks, every other online source I could find just mentions "Keiichi Okabe & MONACA", including MONACA's twitter and the different square enix websites for the game and OST.

The game isn't out yet though, is there a detailed game credits list somewhere else?
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Old Mar 21, 2021, 04:14 PM
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Thanks, every other online source I could find just mentions "Keiichi Okabe & MONACA", including MONACA's twitter and the different square enix websites for the game and OST.

The game isn't out yet though, is there a detailed game credits list somewhere else?
might want to bother @nstz for that since they added it
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we will at least know for sure who were the original composers for NieR Gestalt & Replicant.
optimism always leads to terrible letdowns.
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optimism always leads to terrible letdowns.
I really can’t imagine why they’re still not letting on. We know that some composer breakdown exists somewhere based on various album releases in the last 10 years, it’s also unambiguously there for all the songs rearranged in Automata. That rules out them having lost track of the breakdown or even all tracks being super collaborative, and I can’t think of other reasonable explanations.

At least it’s fairly obvious who composed the small number of new tracks.
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Old Apr 20, 2021, 08:28 PM
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Rights agreements, probably. Those have marred game composer breakdowns for decades.
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Old Apr 20, 2021, 08:45 PM
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Rights agreements, probably. Those have marred game composer breakdowns for decades.
Maybe that’s it. But it’s still a bit weird - another rights issues example I’m aware of is Sonic 3, but they never credit the composers on any rearrangement and its complicated history is well known. Here Okabe seems to have complete creative control over producing albums and rearrangements and there’s no word of any controversy. Sure, I guess there can be different levels of rights agreements, in which case the best case scenario might be to hope that they had some reasonable time limit on that agreement.
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Old Apr 20, 2021, 10:30 PM
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It's not just stuff like Sonic 3 where there are obvious complications. A lot of old game soundtracks are simply credited to Konami Kukeiha Club, Gamadelic, Zuntata, Falcom Sound Team JDK, etc with no additional information. This is because of how the composer contracts worked. The only reason we have breakdowns for any of those is because people asked the composers directly about their involvement decades later.
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So would be filling in the composer info on the original OST be a thing now?
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Old Apr 21, 2021, 07:22 AM
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So would be filling in the composer info on the original OST be a thing now?
Well as you can read above, no, as there's not a single indivoidual compositition credit in there
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Old Apr 23, 2021, 01:15 PM
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So hey, when I tag the composers in the mp3 files, I like to do [Composer Name] with [Vocal Singer's Name]. Usually there is a breakdown of which singer was on which track, but I don't see that here. Anybody got an idea?
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Old Apr 23, 2021, 01:54 PM
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So hey, when I tag the composers in the mp3 files, I like to do [Composer Name] with [Vocal Singer's Name]. Usually there is a breakdown of which singer was on which track, but I don't see that here. Anybody got an idea?
They did one on Drakengard 3 but didn't on Automata and that one, go figure.
If you don't mind waiting i can try and do a breakdown of my own, but i gotta finish the game first since i wanna discover the ost in this way lol
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Old May 9, 2021, 04:53 PM
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I tried a composer (or "contributing artists", excluding singers) breakdown to use for my files, accounting for guesses/discussions in the 2010 OST's page. The composers and arranger for each track are ordered according to current composer-arranger > original composer and original composer > current (and maybe original, in Hoashi's or Takada's case) arranger. Hoashi or Takada might have also helped with the strings arrangement in some original songs such as Emil / Sacrifice which is not reflected here.

While a lot of these are based on official credits/Spotify playlists or info from Hoashi posted in the old album's page, many are (reasonable?) guesses so there's a very good chance at least some are not accurate. The nearly certain ones are
Disc 1 - 1, 4, 5, 7-9, 13-15
Disc 2 - 1, 2, 4, 9-15
Disc 3 - 1, 2, 4-15.

Disc 1:
1. Snow in Summer - Keiichi Okabe, Ryuichi Takada
2. Hills of Radiant Winds - Kakeru Ishihama, Oliver Good
3. The Incomplete Stone - Keiichi Okabe, Oliver Good
4. Blu-bird - Keiichi Okabe, Kuniyuki Takahashi
5. Song of the Ancients / Popola - Keiichi Okabe, Shotaro Seo
6. Cold Steel Coffin - Keiichi Okabe, Keigo Hoashi
7. Grandma - Keiichi Okabe, Keigo Hoashi
8. The Wretched Automatons - Keiichi Okabe, Kuniyuki Takahashi
9. Yonah / Pluck ver. - Keiichi Okabe, Keigo Hoashi
10. City of Commerce - Kakeru Ishihama, Kuniyuki Takahashi
11. The Prestigious Mask - Kakeru Ishihama, Kuniyuki Takahashi
12. Temple of Drifting Sands - Keiichi Okabe, Kuniyuki Takahashi
13. Gods Bound By Rules - Keiichi Okabe, Ryuichi Takada
14. Dispossession / Piano ver. - Keiichi Okabe, Kuniyuki Takahashi
15. Ashes of Dreams / New - Keiichi Okabe, Ryuichi Takada

Disc 2:
1. Kainé / Premonition - Keigo Hoashi, Kakeru Ishihama
2. Song of the Ancients / Devola - Keiichi Okabe, Shotaro Seo
3. The Ultimate Weapon - Keiichi Okabe, Keigo Hoashi
4. Halua - Keigo Hoashi
5. Deep Crimson Foe - Keigo Hoashi, Keiichi Okabe
6. The Lost Forest - Kakeru Ishihama, Shotaro Seo
7. His Dream - Takafumi Nishimura, Shotaro Seo
8. This Dream - Takafumi Nishimura, Shotaro Seo
9. Dispossession / Strings ver. - Keiichi Okabe, Kuniyuki Takahashi
10. Kainé / Salvation - Kakeru Ishihama, Keigo Hoashi
11. The Dark Colossus Destroys All - Keiichi Okabe, Ryuichi Takada
12. Yonah / Piano ver. - Keiichi Okabe, Keigo Hoashi
13. Ashes of Dreams / Nouveau - Keiichi Okabe, Ryuichi Takada
14. Ashes of Dreams / Nuadhaich - Keiichi Okabe, Ryuichi Takada
15. Ashes of Dreams / Lost Music Box ver. - Keiichi Okabe, Ryuichi Takada

Disc 3:
1. Fleeting Words / Family - Keiichi Okabe
2. Fleeting Words / Outsider - Keigo Hoashi, Keiichi Okabe
3. Repose - Keiichi Okabe, Shotaro Seo
4. Song of the Ancients / Hollow Dreams - Keiichi Okabe, Keigo Hoashi
5. Dispossession / Music Box ver. - Keiichi Okabe, Kuniyuki Takahashi
6. Shadowlord’s Castle - Keiichi Okabe, Kuniyuki Takahashi
7. Dance of the Evanescent - Keiichi Okabe, Kuniyuki Takahashi
8. Song of the Ancients / Fate - Keiichi Okabe, Kuniyuki Takahashi
9. Emil / Karma - Kakeru Ishihama, Keigo Hoashi, Kuniyuki Takahashi
10. Emil / Sacrifice - Kakeru Ishihama, Kuniyuki Takahashi
11. Shadowlord - Keigo Hoashi, Kuniyuki Takahashi
12. Analogous Memories - Keiichi Okabe, Keigo Hoashi
13. Grandma / Reunion - Keigo Hoashi, Keiichi Okabe
14. Kainé / Escape - Kakeru Ishihama, Keigo Hoashi
15. Ashes of Dreams / Aratanaru - Keiichi Okabe, Ryuichi Takada
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Does anyone else's Dance of the Evanescent start ... sounding weird, midway through? I haven't played the game, but the youtube videos I pulled up of this track don't seem to include any of the weirdness.
  • Around 0:50, there's some discordance that grows over time, which could be intentional.
  • Between 1:22 and 1:30 there are flat-out skips in the music, which ... feel less likely to be intentional.
  • Between 1:48 and the end at 2:03, there are more skips as the track fades out, and it's not clear if those are intentional either.

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Does anyone else's Dance of the Evanescent start ... sounding weird, midway through? I haven't played the game, but the youtube videos I pulled up of this track don't seem to include any of the weirdness.
  • Around 0:50, there's some discordance that grows over time, which could be intentional.
  • Between 1:22 and 1:30 there are flat-out skips in the music, which ... feel less likely to be intentional.
  • Between 1:48 and the end at 2:03, there are more skips as the track fades out, and it's not clear if those are intentional either.
Yes, my CD has that too. I haven't played the game, so I can't say whether or not that dissonance and those skips are faded in dynamically as gameplay changes. Maybe someone who has played it can recall if that track morphs like that in the game.
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This is done on purpose, because monsters appear while you explore the dancing room and the music gets more twisted before transitioning to "Shadowlord's Castle" (battle version). The transition within "Dance of the Evanescent" itself is actually pretty short in-game, and it's probably dynamic music, so I guess they've tried to make the track longer specifically for the soundtrack, so you can hear how it gradually collapses.

https://youtu.be/VmG8hz9RgvQ?list=PL...RtJfBUk&t=1023
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Very funny to see people think it may be an actual glitch on the CD's part
But yeah, it's all on purpose

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The transition within "Dance of the Evanescent" itself is actually pretty short in-game, and it's probably dynamic music, so I guess they've tried to make the track longer specifically for the soundtrack, so you can hear how it gradually collapses.
I'm sure you can hear it like in the ost if you pause the game at the moment of the transition, since BGM still plays in the pause menu. Either way i'm glad they included the full distortion part, unlike the original ost, which didn't have it featured at all
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Thanks for confirming! Glad to hear it's not a misprint/error.
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