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Old Apr 13, 2013, 02:38 PM
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The real mystery now is that really Toru Minegishi composed for this game, if they really composed something, anywhere, anywhere out anything about it, it is as though there were really composed something,
Event themes.

There was a link to an official[?] JP website featuring some discussion about/with the composers. I can't seem to locate it anymore. Maybe it was from one of Prime Blue's deleted posts. Anyone know what I'm referring to?
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Old Apr 13, 2013, 03:40 PM
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I think you're referring to this?

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- Toru Minegishi's role is mysterious, but his major interview here emphasises how he learned to synchronize music with character animation. I'd therefore guess he did most of the event themes, which is consistent with his orchestral style.
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Nope, it was a different site with talks about all the composers. I'm pretty sure I remember it being in Japanese.
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Ah.

I checked Prime Blue's old posts, and one of them linked to a Japanese sound team interview: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/nom/0301/sound/index.html. Minegishi is only mentioned in a photo caption, though, so I'm not sure that's the one you're thinking of.
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Yeah, that's the one! I thought it mentioned something about Minegishi, but it was probably the Zelda Universe link I was thinking of all along. Dang faulty memory, oh well. Still some great information there!
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Say that Minegishi is responsible for the music event, remains a speculation, in the interview do not mention anything more than that is in charge of sound beside to Masafumi Watanabe and Takahiro Kawamura, who are responsible for the sound effect programming, issue that not said in the interview but if in the credits of the game.

Another at charge of the effect sound programming is Taiju Suzuki, that is not even mentioned in the interview but if in the credits of the game.

In the interview surprisingly gets above Minegishi at Kawamura.

If we see the picture, the only conclusion we could draw is that Minegishi formed part of that team, which is recording the sound effects of a scene, or at least collaborated with them.

Can not say that Minegishi information about their work in this game is scarce, there is simply nothing to confirm that has done ​​the music event of the game.

Much of the music event, sounds like Nagata, indeed much is based on cuts of other songs composed by him.
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- Toru Minegishi's role is mysterious, but his major interview here emphasises how he learned to synchronize music with character animation. I'd therefore guess he did most of the event themes, which is consistent with his orchestral style.
Belated, and just because I'm thinking about Nintendo composer roles a lot at the moment, but I think what is meant by synchronizing music isn't necessarily cutscenes (though could be) but more to do with the action during battles and how the music changes as the player strikes the enemy or performs some action. I conclude that any of the songs where this is prevalent are likely Minegishi's work, which is a number of the battle songs (but not all of them - some like Gohdan I would bet my life on being Wakai ~ I think he did most of them to be honest.) Phantom Ganon is the standout example, I think. It stinks of Minegishi, even without the music<->battle synchronisation. Mini Boss too, as was already stated by Guitarist500.

I also have a question about "Game Demo (NINTENDO SPACEWORLD 2001)" which isn't on the soundtrack CD. It was also used as the menu theme for the GCN Zelda Collector's Edition. Anyone have any idea who arranged that?
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I know you know quite a bit about music and have a good ear, but I think "Phantom Ganon" is Wakai. The general harmony makes me think it's him and those fast piano and organ runs remind me of "Gohdan", which I agree is so Wakai (and it is a crime the full track isn't on this album -- there are three versions and only the first is presented in its entirety with half each of the other two making the rest of the track, and even the first is different on the album, replacing an electric piano counter-melody in the game with a different harpsichord part starting at about 31 seconds). What do you think seems like Minegishi about it? The only thing I feel strongly about being his is the mini boss theme, which I also thought even before seeing anyone else did too. I initially felt "Battle" could have been him, but I recall hearing similarities in other things I was more certain were Wakai, even on other soundtracks, that made me change my mind, but I don't remember what anymore.

For what it's worth, I think Wakai did "Rescuing Aryll" numbers 4 and 5, which Guitarist500 had attributed to Nagata.
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It could be Wakai as there are bits in it that remind me of him too. I listen to other Minegishi battle themes for reference (Darknut in Twilight Princess is a good example), and a lot of them tend to have prominent snare rolls and piano basslines. But the most standout thing is the harmonies, the stacked 4ths/quartals are something he does a lot ~ noticed this in other Twilight Princess songs and Spirit Tracks as well, and even in the most well-known example of his main boss theme for Majora's Mask. Those string chords! Granted Wakai also does this, most noticeably in Star Fox 64, but on Wind Waker at least Wakai's other songs seem to me to be a bit more sparsely arranged, less layers, and more quirky/noodly sounding somehow. You could be right though, it's a just a hunch and sadly that may be all it ever will be it's difficult to see what else Minegishi contributed to the score, in any case (2nd Maritime Battle and Ganondorf Battle sound like him to me too.)

I agree about those Aryll tracks too ~ not Nagata imo, but one of the other two.

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Strange, this album is OoP, yet Amazon.co.jp says that, not only is it in stock, but that there's more on the way. Is it possible they unknowingly have bootleg copies or something?
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Strange, this album is OoP, yet Amazon.co.jp says that, not only is it in stock, but that there's more on the way. Is it possible they unknowingly have bootleg copies or something?
I really doubt Amazon would ever sell you bootlegs, they're most likely legit.

As a side note, while this one is definitely OOP and they must have some copies left from the last printing, some sites like CDJapan will say something is OOP even when it's not. It happens all the time even with very new albums and it just means they're not willing to stock it anymore.
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alright then, I wasn't really sure what to think, but I figured someone here might know. thanks.
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Something might be out of PRINT, but the STOCK of them still exists in a warehouse of the distributor, still waiting to be sent to stores to be sold.
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Sorry for bumping this, but the notes lead us to go in there to find composer/arranger informations. But the discussions go everywhere and it's hard to actually pinpoint what's official or unofficial information and I'd be extremely grateful if someone could do a summary of the credits, at least for the officially confirmed tracks.
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The only official credits we have right now are :

We don't have any official credit for Toru Minegishi.

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We also know a few other things thanks to some interviews (I don't know if all of the sources for these are findable nowadays) :
  • Kenta Nagata : he was the main composer
  • Hajime Wakai : he did a lot of battle themes for the game
  • Toru Minegishi : he did some cutscene music

For all the other songs, we can only guess thanks to what we already know and each composer's style.

I'm updating the notes with the official credits we know.

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The only official credits we have right now are :

We don't have any official credit for Toru Minegishi.

Sources :
We also know a few other things thanks to some interviews (I don't know if all of the sources for these are findable nowadays) :
  • Kenta Nagata : he was the main composer
  • Hajime Wakai : he did a lot of battle themes for the game
  • Toru Minegishi : he did some cutscene music

For all the other songs, we can only guess thanks to what we already know and each composer's style.

I'm updating the notes with the official credits we know.
Thank you
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We also know a few other things thanks to some interviews (I don't know if all of the sources for these are findable nowadays) :
  • Kenta Nagata : he was the main composer
  • Hajime Wakai : he did a lot of battle themes for the game
  • Toru Minegishi : he did some cutscene music
I think much of that information comes from this Nintendo Online Magazine interview with Kondo, Nagata, Wakai, Eiji Aonuma and Masafumi Kawamura that was conducted around the game's release (my knowledge of Japanese is limited, so I don't feel confident trying to dig up some more info from there myself). As for Minegishi, he mentioned a little bit about his work on Wind Waker on this promotional Twilight Princess interview that appeared on Nintendo Power (which is probably where his "cutscene" work comes from).

I hope that helps!
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